Other mods for a v6 to get up to 400hp?

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

I don't care what he runs. He said he paid extra 10k for a v8 compared to a v6 obviously not including any mods he might have put in. However that 10k put into a v6 will smoke the v8. Stating facts as well, no hate.

Ok for the sake of entertainment. Lets start with a 25K Lt vs a 37K 2ss
I will spot you 11K of fictional money. Now lets not talk Nitrous cause that is only good for short bursts and only at the 1/4 mile tracks. What mods would you be able to do that would put you at the 400 RWHP of a stock SS. When I say stock and when I say 400 rwhp I am really meaning cat deleted, muffler deleted and a CAI on a SS to be at that number on a dyno. Total additional cost for these deletes and a CAI is going to be 600 so I will actually give you 11,600.00 Keep in mind that its not just hitting the HP goal but you have to build the support systems to handle that power. Ie, fuel delivery, brakes, tranny, gears, cooling, injectors, and find the power. Enlighten us.

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Saying the v6 can't be a race car is pretty much slapping the people modding their cars to race, in the face. Any car can be a race car. Rotary engines, 4bangers, v6, inline 6, etc. Doesn't have to be a v8 or larger...

OH MY.... I give up.

[2010 SS RS]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Saying the v6 can't be a race car is pretty much slapping the people modding their cars to race, in the face. Any car can be a race car. Rotary engines, 4bangers, v6, inline 6, etc. Doesn't have to be a v8 or larger...

True statement, If you are good at the light and consistant, a v6 stock can beat a fully modified SS in bracket races. Its not about the speed as much as being Mr. consistant. Not to mention sitting at the light for 3 to 4 seconds waiting to be allowed to go really sux and is hard not to red light.

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Ok for the sake of entertainment. Lets start with a 25K Lt vs a 37K 2ss
I will spot you 11K of fictional money. Now lets not talk Nitrous cause that is only good for short bursts and only at the 1/4 mile tracks. What mods would you be able to do that would put you at the 400 RWHP of a stock SS. When I say stock and when I say 400 rwhp I am really meaning cat deleted, muffler deleted and a CAI on a SS to be at that number on a dyno. Total additional cost for these deletes and a CAI is going to be 600 so I will actually give you 11,600.00 Keep in mind that its not just hitting the HP goal but you have to build the support systems to handle that power. Ie, fuel delivery, brakes, tranny, gears, cooling, injectors, and find the power. Enlighten us.

We should leave here... we've stumbled into hostile territory... Seems a lot of them have a case of the sore arse bc they keeping getting the so-called "slap in the face" because us ignorant pompus V8 owners shun them for having V6s. I have said it before and i will say it again... I see nothing wrong with a V6 Camaro... they are every bit as cool and bad ass as my V8. I don't know about you... I'd still rather have my arse be warm than sore...

Mod away my V6 bretheren... run them little suckers down the track till the tires fall off... I dont really care... just please PLEASE for the love of all things holy...

STOP BEING SO FRIGGIN SENSITIVE!!!

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

OH MY.... I give up.

You should give up. Frankly, you should have never posted in the first place. This thread was started because the OP wanted to know if it was possible to get 400hp on a v6 camaro. Not to compare the v6 with the v8 and not to say v6 isn't a race car.

I realize you deleted your post, but obviously it was a tad bit to late.

[gjarzabek009]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Ok for the sake of entertainment. Lets start with a 25K Lt vs a 37K 2ss
I will spot you 11K of fictional money. Now lets not talk Nitrous cause that is only good for short bursts and only at the 1/4 mile tracks. What mods would you be able to do that would put you at the 400 RWHP of a stock SS. When I say stock and when I say 400 rwhp I am really meaning cat deleted, muffler deleted and a CAI on a SS to be at that number on a dyno. Total additional cost for these deletes and a CAI is going to be 600 so I will actually give you 11,600.00 Keep in mind that its not just hitting the HP goal but you have to build the support systems to handle that power. Ie, fuel delivery, brakes, tranny, gears, cooling, injectors, and find the power. Enlighten us.

You could do 400rwhp with a sts turbo on stock tranny. Anything above that I agree you would have to do some extra work to support that power. We are seeing promising future mods like a twin turbo set up which can get you at around 500hp and hopefully finally a supercharger. Lets not forget about cams that might be available in the future. I'll say this, you will hit a mark where it becomes pointless to continue modding a v6 because of necessary expensive upgrades to support that power but I don't need to have a 700hp machine as I'm not that much into racing that I would go so far.

[CamaroDreams07]

...I really just want to know more about the aforementioned torque converter

I could care less V8 or V6, to me it's all about taking WHATEVER you started with and getting the most you can out of it.

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Ok for the sake of entertainment. Lets start with a 25K Lt vs a 37K 2ss
I will spot you 11K of fictional money. Now lets not talk Nitrous cause that is only good for short bursts and only at the 1/4 mile tracks. What mods would you be able to do that would put you at the 400 RWHP of a stock SS. When I say stock and when I say 400 rwhp I am really meaning cat deleted, muffler deleted and a CAI on a SS to be at that number on a dyno. Total additional cost for these deletes and a CAI is going to be 600 so I will actually give you 11,600.00 Keep in mind that its not just hitting the HP goal but you have to build the support systems to handle that power. Ie, fuel delivery, brakes, tranny, gears, cooling, injectors, and find the power. Enlighten us.

This....plus a million.

I can't wait to hear this answer.....

[PoorMansCamaro]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

True statement, If you are good at the light and consistant, a v6 stock can beat a fully modified SS in bracket races. Its not about the speed as much as being Mr. consistant. Not to mention sitting at the light for 3 to 4 seconds waiting to be allowed to go really sux and is hard not to red light.

What are you talking about? I'm not talking about bracket racing. There are plenty of 4 bangers that will smoke v8's in a heads up race. Same with v6's. If I can get my car to run low 12's/high 11's, I think that qualifies as a race car, don't you think?

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by 2010 SS RS

Ok for the sake of entertainment. Lets start with a 25K Lt vs a 37K 2ss
I will spot you 11K of fictional money. Now lets not talk Nitrous cause that is only good for short bursts and only at the 1/4 mile tracks. What mods would you be able to do that would put you at the 400 RWHP of a stock SS. When I say stock and when I say 400 rwhp I am really meaning cat deleted, muffler deleted and a CAI on a SS to be at that number on a dyno. Total additional cost for these deletes and a CAI is going to be 600 so I will actually give you 11,600.00 Keep in mind that its not just hitting the HP goal but you have to build the support systems to handle that power. Ie, fuel delivery, brakes, tranny, gears, cooling, injectors, and find the power. Enlighten us.

Take about 6 or 7 grand in turbo modding (thats including all engine mods and tune) to get around the 400 rwhp number on the LLT. Not hard to find take off SS brembos for braking power...thats rotors, calipers, and lines.

But I'm no expert on beefing up the drivetrain, but with 3 to 4 grand left I'd say thats got to help get you to that goal. Gonna want good tires too of course.

In the end you'd have a car capable of mid to high 12s on the good runs, but with no warranty and probably less reliable, but thats just my guess on the reliability.

Of course, this whole modding the V6 thing is just that...its a V6 thing. We just want to explore and see what this little engine is capable of.

[gjarzabek009]

Originally Posted by jrhaus76

We should leave here... we've stumbled into hostile territory... Seems a lot of them have a case of the sore arse bc they keeping getting the so-called "slap in the face" because us ignorant pompus V8 owners shun them for having V6s. I have said it before and i will say it again... I see nothing wrong with a V6 Camaro... they are every bit as cool and bad ass as my V8. I don't know about you... I'd still rather have my arse be warm than sore...

Mod away my V6 bretheren... run them little suckers down the track till the tires fall off... I dont really care... just please PLEASE for the love of all things holy...

STOP BEING SO FRIGGIN SENSITIVE!!!

You always get yourself in this hostile territory though XD

[IROCanSS]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

You should give up. Frankly, you should have never posted in the first place. This thread was started because the OP wanted to know if it was possible to get 400hp on a v6 camaro. Not to compare the v6 with the v8 and not to say v6 isn't a race car.

I realize you deleted your post, but obviously it was a tad bit to late.

FWIW... I never compared the V6 to a V8...

This is what I posted... maybe you should open up your mind a tad, read it and then tell me where I said anything that wasnt either true OR stated as MY OPINION... the only mention of V8 was the tongue in cheek line in the beginning about how someone would surely take it the wrong way... which I was spot on.

"I am sorry, you will all probably take this as a V8 guy peeing on the V6ers parade but I have to say this thread is full of FAIL!

First, cuts outs dont add shit except for noise and they take away torque. IMO cutouts are the biggest waste of money, ESPECIALLY on a V6 which isnt that good sounding of an engine anyhow, especially with open pipes.

Next... 400 RWHP from a V6 without a SC or turbo... nadda gonna happen! EVER. Well maybe with a 125 shot of NOS or N2O or what ever the hell you want to call it...

Third... again all you armchair racers chasiing HP on the V6 will still get your asses handed to you by most sport coupe "performance" cars... WHY? Simple, the car has HIGH weight and LOW torque. Period, end of story, live with it, be happy with your V6 for whatever reason you bought it... I really dont care. I see nothing wrong with a V6 Camaro... they are every bit as cool and bad ass as my V8 BUT... you will never match the torque produced by the V8... Sorry... live with it.

GM did a GREAT job with the V6 but it ain't no race car!

Happy Easter everyone! "

[CamaroDreams07]

Originally Posted by Huggerorange73

This....plus a million.

I can't wait to hear this answer.....

...we can definitely get to 400 with turbo kits out already with stock internals, and stock tranny. That's not an issue. So let's say $8K installed turbo, and then if you want to mod up to the SS Brembos like I already did, with slotted rotors and SS Pedders lines, figure another grand, so we're right around $9K.

[Huggerorange73]

Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

You could do 400rwhp with a sts turbo on stock tranny. Anything above that I agree you would have to do some extra work to support that power. We are seeing promising future mods like a twin turbo set up which can get you at around 500hp and hopefully finally a supercharger. Lets not forget about cams that might be available in the future. I'll say this, you will hit a mark where it becomes pointless to continue modding a v6 because of necessary expensive upgrades to support that power but I don't need to have a 700hp machine as I'm not that much into racing that I would go so far.

Twin Turbo @ 500 RWHP?!?!?

Guy local to us has his car at IPS....they're talking around 400 rwhp. Another local guy has the STS kit and laid down 380.

With headers, hi flow cats and a cold air on the factory tune I laid down 422 rwhp.

I have no issues with the V6 Camaro, or the fact that you guys are modding them to get em to go. But don't say foolish things like you're saying.

Wanna go fast, save yourself alot of headache and start with the V8.