modded camaro vs stock 2010 mustang gt

[usa1camaro1969]

How was the clutch feeling on the nitrous after a few runs? I've been getting the process down on some of the back roads. As long as the clutch holds together I think I can get a good one in but not sure about if it'll make more than a few without heating up and slipping. It's what's kept me from doing what I want to do so bad. The 13.8 was followed up by a 13.9 and some 14's after that clutch got the heat/stink to it. The first time I tested the line-lock on dry pavement the only smoke was from the clutch(I'm pretty sure the pressure plate is extremely weak on the stock set-up). It consistently drops about .3 between the first/second and last run of the night.

And yes, if you can't cut a decent light you will most definitely get you ass handed to you.

[MichaelH]

holy crap this is getting annoying go race him you can beat him if u get a good launch only neg going against u is the tires but the 3.73 gears are saving u on tht as well but it shld be a good race jus dont screw up and i have faith in you that u beat him

[SIXJAK]

Originally Posted by jamie

List of mods is very short. DOT Drag tires on a set of dedicated wheels (Yes they are light and smaller than stock 19's) CAI. Custom exhausts. and a Healthy shot of N02. However there are others on here that are posting 13.8's etc. without the spray. My Dad says the 13.5 is lazy and feels he can do better. I agree since he did it for a living for many years. We will see when he gets here from down south this year. I will keep my slips next time. I didn't think a 13.5 was something to brag about. I was just simply stating that its possible to get a completely stock 10 Mustang GT in a Drag race... Anyone who disagree's hasn't raced one.

This x's 1,000,000

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

I will agree a 10 GT is on average a faster car than a 10 V6 Camaro. But to claim the 10 GT is a 13.3 sec car (bone stock) with a competent driver is a big stretch.
You could even start a thread over in Stangnet and they'll tell you the same. 13.3 (bone stock) in a 10 GT would be a glory pass (like a mid 12 sec run in an LS3 Camaro).

The thing to keep in mind is, that a glory pass in a mustang is different then a glory pass in a camaro. For example, I think the best time ran in a bone stock 2010 gt (actually an 05 might have ran it as well) was a 13.29 (or something of the sort). I've never seen it in a video, only a forum members signature. So lets take that out of equation, and a 13.3 has been done numerous times, however, I will say that you're right, it's close to a glory pass. The only thing is, numerous people have run 13.4s and anyone can run a 13.5 in a 2010 gt (with a few practice runs of course). In a camaro, specifically an l99, the glory pass I believe was a 12.87, even though the majority of owners run 13.2-13.3's (which is a good time, equivalent to the mustangs 13.4-13.5, ie same drivers, conditions, etc). The time differences between the glory times of the camaro are vastly different (wider range) than those of the mustang (glory passes are only 1 tenth from what many owners manage to run). This can be because of the SRA and easier ability to launch a mustang than a camaro, stock tires/wheels, 3.73 gears, etc.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

The thing to keep in mind is, that a glory pass in a mustang is different then a glory pass in a camaro. For example, I think the best time ran in a bone stock 2010 gt (actually an 05 might have ran it as well) was a 13.29 (or something of the sort). I've never seen it in a video, only a forum members signature. So lets take that out of equation, and a 13.3 has been done numerous times, however, I will say that you're right, it's close to a glory pass. The only thing is, numerous people have run 13.4s and anyone can run a 13.5 in a 2010 gt (with a few practice runs of course). In a camaro, specifically an l99, the glory pass I believe was a 12.87, even though the majority of owners run 13.2-13.3's (which is a good time, equivalent to the mustangs 13.4-13.5, ie same drivers, conditions, etc). The time differences between the glory times of the camaro are vastly different (wider range) than those of the mustang (glory passes are only 1 tenth from what many owners manage to run). This can be because of the SRA and easier ability to launch a mustang than a camaro, stock tires/wheels, 3.73 gears, etc.

Why do I see so many running 14.0-14.2 at the strip. I've never seen one run 13.5 totally stock. It may be possible, but it isn't anywhere near the norm from what I have seen.

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Why do I see so many running 14.0-14.2 at the strip. I've never seen one run 13.5 totally stock. It may be possible, but it isn't anywhere near the norm from what I have seen.

for every mustang gt running in the 14's, you'll have a v-6 camaro running mid 15's. A lot of these people are making their first runs out, and I know that I couldn't run a 13.4 or 13.5 on my first run, but after a few practice runs? Yes, absolutely. A good rule of thumb is a tenth or 2 quicker then what the magazine times run. To put that into camaro terms, a lot of magazine times ran 13.0 flat, which is a solid time, and many people have run 12.8's bone stock in their camaro.


Or you could be at a really high elevation.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

for every mustang gt running in the 14's, you'll have a v-6 camaro running mid 15's. A lot of these people are making their first runs out, and I know that I couldn't run a 13.4 or 13.5 on my first run, but after a few practice runs? Yes, absolutely. A good rule of thumb is a tenth or 2 quicker then what the magazine times run. To put that into camaro terms, a lot of magazine times ran 13.0 flat, which is a solid time, and many people have run 12.8's bone stock in their camaro.


Or you could be at a really high elevation.

I'm sure there are stock v-6 camaros that have run in the 15s, but I would say for every '10 GT that runs a 14.1 there is a '10 LLT running 14.8.

Yes, 13.5-13.7 is definitely doable in the '10 GT. It is also doable with the OPs car. As most of us have said, the manual GT will win, the auto GT has a slight advantage, but if he goes with lighter wheels he'll beat the auto GT with his other mods.

[SWAT 79]

See, this is why people begin to overestimate the v-6. A 2010 gt is 9 tenths to 1 second faster then a v-6 camaro. That's it end of story. A typical time for a mustang gt is a 13.4 to 13.5 (magazine times, not what you guys have "seen" at the track) and a camaro v-6 is 14.3-14.4 (some 14.2 have been recorded).


To clarify, this was stock for stock.

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

See, this is why people begin to overestimate the v-6. A 2010 gt is 9 tenths to 1 second faster then a v-6 camaro. That's it end of story. A typical time for a mustang gt is a 13.4 to 13.5 (magazine times, not what you guys have "seen" at the track) and a camaro v-6 is 14.3-14.4 (some 14.2 have been recorded).


To clarify, this was stock for stock.

They won't be racing in a magazine, they'll be racing at a track. There '10 GTs are not "typically" getting 13.4-13.5 in my experience. Realistically, these cars are 0.5-0.6 sec. apart when stock. With his mods he's pretty much erased that (maybe more, we don't have many V6s running 21 in. wheels for comparision).

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

They won't be racing in a magazine, they'll be racing at a track. There '10 GTs are not "typically" getting 13.4-13.5 in my experience. Realistically, these cars are 0.5-0.6 sec. apart when stock. With his mods he's pretty much erased that (maybe more, we don't have many V6s running 21 in. wheels for comparision).

No, they do typically get 13.4-13.5, as I've explained in numerous posts. .5 to .6 seconds apart? So let me get this straight. In your experience, the 2010 gt runs slower then its magazine times, where as the v-6 camaro, runs equal to or faster then its magazine times?

I understand you like your camaro, it's a sweet ride for sure, hell I almost bought one (which is why I know what I'm talking about), but let's not make it something it's not. If a mustang gt is a mid 13 second car, the v-6 camaro is a mid 14 second car. If in your experience the Mustang is running low 14's, then the camaro is running low 15s. They're a second apart, and it's not in the camaro's favor. That's just the way it is man, power, weight, torque, gears, and suspension have a lot to do with it, and with the mods the OP has, the mustang is superior in all but hp, which down a 1/4 mile track, won't do enough to overcome the other challenges.

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by SWAT 79

A 2010 gt is 9 tenths to 1 second faster then a v-6 camaro. That's it end of story. A typical time for a mustang gt is a 13.4 to 13.5 (magazine times, not what you guys have "seen" at the track) and a camaro v-6 is 14.3-14.4 (some 14.2 have been recorded).


To clarify, this was stock for stock.

True that.

[formare]

Somebody just race so we can close this thread. :-) This would be the third type of thread started like this. V6 vs GT.... The other threads ended as one would expect. Soooo, let's stop the blah, blah, blah, go get it done, and have yet another story we can point to as proof.

Ps

It would be interesting if, after the race, the drivers were to switch cars and race again...

[KMPrenger]

SWAT 79, you seem to keep comparing stock GT versus stock Camaro V6. In that case, of course you are right. GT is 1/2 of a second to a full second faster down the 1/4 mile depending on the typical runs you might find out there.

But this thread is about stock GT versus decently modded Camaro V6. So lets stick to that.

I hope a race like this actually happens and we have video or timeslip proof eventually.

[SWAT 79]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

SWAT 79, you seem to keep comparing stock GT versus stock Camaro V6. In that case, of course you are right. GT is 1/2 of a second to a full second faster down the 1/4 mile depending on the typical runs you might find out there.

But this thread is about stock GT versus decently modded Camaro V6. So lets stick to that.

I hope a race like this actually happens and we have video or timeslip proof eventually.

The conversation went in that direction, and the stock times are crucial to the conversation with the modded v-6. The GT is not only 1/2 second faster, it's a full second faster. That is relevant because I don't think the above mods would add 100 hp to the camaro v-6 (or 10 tenths of a second, the time needed to make up the difference between the camaro v-6, and the mustang gt).