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Old 06-01-2011, 04:43 PM   #1
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2010 Camaro SS - Video after E85 Tune

got my car tuned for E85, runs really well. has much better throttle response and more overall power.

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Old 06-01-2011, 04:58 PM   #2
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What hardware had to be changed?
Dyno?
Flex-fuel or E85 only?
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:57 PM   #3
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Your gas mileage is going to fail horribly..

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/...ison-test.html
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:31 PM   #4
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What hardware had to be changed?
Dyno?
Flex-fuel or E85 only?
No hardware was changed, everything was done in the tune.
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Your gas mileage is going to fail horribly..

http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/...ison-test.html
It's a big v8. The owner doesn't care about gas mileage.
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:48 PM   #5
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car sounds awesome, but do you need to switch out some of the plastic fuel parts to avoid corrosion from the E85? I heard it's about $100 in parts on average, but I don't know what parts exactly.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:33 AM   #6
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car sounds awesome, but do you need to switch out some of the plastic fuel parts to avoid corrosion from the E85? I heard it's about $100 in parts on average, but I don't know what parts exactly.
nah thats highly unlikely, it is corrosive but not much more than regular gasoline, gasoline has just as much chance to corrode all the "fuel parts" as E85 does. I could be wrong but I heard that is a rumor that e85 corrodes fuel tanks and what not. If you know other wise or know someone with this problem, please let me know.
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so whats so much better about E85?
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:47 AM   #8
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No hardware was changed, everything was done in the tune.

It's a big v8. The owner doesn't care about gas mileage.
Wrong. I don't care how big my v8 is. If I went from 18mpg to 12mpg to "help the planet" id be pissed, in fact, I wouldn't buy a v8 in the first place if I wanted to help the planet.

Not only that, but it seems like you lose performance with E85...their testings showed that anyways.
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:31 AM   #9
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so whats so much better about E85?
more power, cheaper, runs better, better for environment.


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Wrong. I don't care how big my v8 is. If I went from 18mpg to 12mpg to "help the planet" id be pissed, in fact, I wouldn't buy a v8 in the first place if I wanted to help the planet.

Not only that, but it seems like you lose performance with E85...their testings showed that anyways.
well... actually as far as ive noticed my mpg didn't change much, in fact it went up a bit. I drove all day the last few days, and when it comes to power they obviously didn't test it on a performance car with a big engine, E85 has a octane rating of 105, and 95% of the people ive seen gained a noticable amount of power, also its 3.45per gallon (about 1.30 cheaper than premium in my area).
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humm interesting, i will stayed tuned to this thread. some say its better, some say its not.
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:36 AM   #11
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This is something I have been looking into, but I see no reason to do this to a stock setup for two reasons;
E85 is about 30% less efficient and only about 20% less per gallon than 91 (where I live), so cost per mile is higher.
The costs/subsidies and carbon footprint to manufacture E85 VS 91.

With that said, my 12:1 427 will be running E85 due to it's higher octane rating. I'd go 93 over E85 if we had it.
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i was reading this, http://www.edmunds.com/fuel-economy/...ison-test.html

it seems it does have a higher octane, but in terms of better for the environment and MPG its not better. they even said they pollute the same. they said the E85 was slower. but was also saying that may be because of how the engine was programmed to run.

what i am most interested in is the higher octane level.
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If you run fine on 91-93 octane, you have nothing to gain from a higher octane rating until you increase compression or timing, for the most part.
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Old 06-02-2011, 01:49 AM   #14
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This is something I have been looking into, but I see no reason to do this to a stock setup for two reasons;
E85 is about 30% less efficient and only about 20% less per gallon than 91 (where I live), so cost per mile is higher.
The costs/subsidies and carbon footprint to manufacture E85 VS 91.

With that said, my 12:1 427 will be running E85 due to it's higher octane rating. I'd go 93 over E85 if we had it.
I mean the main reason i did this is for gas prices and power, and i live in the oh so lovely town of Chicago, IL with our highest gas prices in the country at the moment, it sounded like a good idea and i am really happy with it, if and when the gas prices go down, who knows what ill do, ill probably keep increasing power to my car at a efficient rate and E85 will help me with that, but its all about opinion

*EDIT: i actually did change the timing and noticed better throttle response and felt faster to me
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