06-07-2011, 08:26 PM | #113 |
Don't Like it? Suggit.
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06-07-2011, 08:27 PM | #114 |
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I wish this thread was no longer available.....
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06-07-2011, 08:29 PM | #115 |
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Why was the other thread deleted?
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06-07-2011, 08:35 PM | #116 | |
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06-07-2011, 08:37 PM | #117 |
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06-07-2011, 08:42 PM | #118 |
Hail to the King baby!
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Just do it knowing that Ford himself and others have suggeted the same thing.................including Bob Lutz.
All he is saying is, "government, if you want people to buy small cars, you can't simply make it illegal for us to make them". Do you recall Bob Lutz's comment on this? CAFE is like trying to get a fat guy to lose weight by making him wear smaller pants................or something to that effect. Funnier yes, but the same message. Akerson wasn't talking to you and I, he was talking to the (ahem) good people in Washington that think you'll eat less if they make you wear smaller pants.
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06-07-2011, 08:48 PM | #119 |
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all this new CEO needs to do is make gm manufacture lighter vehicles, and he gets my approval,
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06-07-2011, 08:55 PM | #120 |
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Makes sense, Number 3.
My gut tells me - maybe too simply put - the true muscle car died before, and it's been shown that history in general repeats itself. By the time I graduated from high school in '79 they were all but gone. That's one reason I wanted to get a Gen5 Camaro while I still can. No guarantee history will repeat itself again, and it won't exactly, but it does tend to.
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06-07-2011, 08:59 PM | #121 |
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putz
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Hail to the King baby!
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There are two countries with populations that are achieving the economic status that enables the personal mobility we have enjoyed over the past 70 or 80 years here in the U.S. China's automobile market could triple in the next 10 years from a market the size of the U.S. to being as large as the U.S., Europe and Japan combined. How much oil does it take to feed that need. China is currently proposing (just proposing so far) regulations that are at least as severe as CAFE and include electric propulsion like California. The worst of both worlds. So we either become truly self sufficient or hope our uncle up North with the Tar Sands still likes us.....................a lot. You can take it to the bank, no one at GM wants to just come and tax you because they think you need to be taxed more.
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06-07-2011, 09:06 PM | #123 |
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Nope.
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Why does he not recommend the government do things to increase domestic fuel supply/capacity? Why does he have to play the game on the governments terms? Oh....that's right....the government owns them. |
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06-07-2011, 09:16 PM | #125 |
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higher tax will make more americans buy prius cars, adios camaro
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Thanks for posting the whole article. The part that stuck out to me was the idea that increasing CAFE to 62 mpg would only raise the cost of cars $3500. Whoever concluded that must be smoking some damn strong stuff. The $20K price premium for the Volt doesn't even get you close.
Unless that is spin for the average sub-compact (the only cars that will ever be available under such standards) will only cost $3500 more than current full-size SUVs. $40-50K Aveo or Cruze anyone? Quote:
Why is letting the free-market determine what we drive never even considered? I know, crazy thought, right?
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