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caverman · 06-24-2011, 12:57 PM

Ok.....so nothing major but I am pumped to get these installed. Unfortunately I have to wait a least a week because of my schedule and getting an open lift to get them installed.

Major difference in feel of touch vs the Energy inserts I have. I'll be making some pics/videos of the difference between them.

No big deal to some people but I'm excited....especially after the headache I had installing my Energy Suspension inserts.

Thanks to Rob@WretchedMotorsports and Justice Pete for all the help.

Inserts came in today but I got the Stage 1 Street Pkg from Rob which is the inserts + radius rod inserts.

J-Rod6410 · 06-24-2011, 01:25 PM

Very nice

So whats the price difference between the two

Just curious to know if this is another one of those "You get what you pay for" type things

I'll be watching this and waiting on your outcome

midnighter · 06-24-2011, 01:30 PM

Let the fun begin.

Doc · 06-24-2011, 01:39 PM

I think I have every bushing Pedders makes; they really do transform the car. GM should just use these from the get-go.

ShnOmac · 06-24-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc

I think I have every bushing Pedders makes; they really do transform the car. GM should just use these from the get-go.

Im pretty sure JusticePete would love that!

hypurone · 06-24-2011, 01:57 PM

Shouldn't be too bad on a lift. On the ground was a bit of a bitch.... Enjoy!

Bruce@raymondsperformance · 06-24-2011, 02:12 PM

That is a great way to start your suspension upgrade.

bigsquirrel · 06-24-2011, 02:20 PM

I thought the install was easy enough, have heat to get those washers off. At first I couldn't tell a big difference but to more I drive it the more noticeable it gets

2010 SSRS · 06-24-2011, 02:21 PM

nice and shiny

hypurone · 06-24-2011, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bigsquirrel

I thought the install was easy enough, have heat to get those washers off. At first I couldn't tell a big difference but to more I drive it the more noticeable it gets

No heat needed. Large channel-locks worked for me. Just twist em off...

caverman · 06-24-2011, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jrrod6410

Very nice

So whats the price difference between the two

Just curious to know if this is another one of those "You get what you pay for" type things

I'll be watching this and waiting on your outcome

It is going to be one of those you get what you pay for. I'll be able to give more of an accurate feeling once they are installed and then get out to the track.

I can tell you two things right off the bat that makes them better than the other brand/design. First off just the design...mostly on the front top bushing....is alot better. Pedders not only fills in some of that void area inside the bushing but they also have a large ring of bushing where it makes contact with the body. The other brand only fills the void. Nothing is done to the top of the front cradle bushing. You are supposed to get their inserts to be flush with the OEM one and it was just about impossible for me to get them in flush.

Second, I can tell you the feel of the Energy insert it kind of spongey. Pretty soft and I hope I can show that in some video or pics. When I first got my hands on the Energy ones I was surprised, actually kind of disappointed, with the feel. I thought they were going to be fairly firm like I would expect a poly bushing to be but they weren't. The Pedders inserts on the hand are a firm bushing just like what I expected. The fingers that go inside the OEM bushing are a little flexible but the the main bushing that touches the body of the car and the area around it are real firm. You can not push in on these bushings at all.

Based on looks of how they install they should be alot easier as well. You don't have to try to shoe horn those little inserts into the top like the other brand.

I'll be repeating most of this and give examples of what I'm talking about when I do my other thread.

If you plan on doing the radius rod inserts, which according to everyone you should, then it makes it cheaper to buy the Stage 1 Street Pkg from Rob. The Pedders inserts are definately more expensive than the Energy ones but I'll tell you from just my experience that I had with installing the Energy inserts along with looking at the design it's worth saving up and spending the extra money IMO.....and that's before I've even tried them installed. That's all just based on feel of the inserts and ease of install.

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Originally Posted by hypurone

Shouldn't be too bad on a lift. On the ground was a bit of a bitch.... Enjoy!

LOL....unfortunately this is going to be my 3rd install. You know how it is, the first one is always the hardest, the second on is much easier because you know what to do, the third attempt should be cake. I'm guessing 1.5 hrs start to finish and that's mostly because I have to fish out the other inserts which isn't going to be easy.

caverman · 06-24-2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hypurone

No heat needed. Large channel-locks worked for me. Just twist em off...

I agree....no heat needed. I used two hammers and they came of with about 3-4 good hits. I'm going to try to video that process this time.

RichJ. · 06-24-2011, 05:30 PM

Welcome to more Pedders As i have always said first you need the correct foundation.

SS_Killer · 06-24-2011, 09:18 PM

I think you are going to like these. My car has the Pedder's radius rod bushing inserts (which are ridiculously easy to install) and the BMR cradle bushing inserts. The BMRs look much like the Pedders inserts and are quite firm as you describe.
Mine help a lot on the Autocross course.

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caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 7,111	Look what the UPS man just dropped off! Ok.....so nothing major but I am pumped to get these installed. Unfortunately I have to wait a least a week because of my schedule and getting an open lift to get them installed. Major difference in feel of touch vs the Energy inserts I have. I'll be making some pics/videos of the difference between them. No big deal to some people but I'm excited....especially after the headache I had installing my Energy Suspension inserts. Thanks to Rob@WretchedMotorsports and Justice Pete for all the help. Inserts came in today but I got the Stage 1 Street Pkg from Rob which is the inserts + radius rod inserts. Attached Images __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

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J-Rod6410 M6 9 second club Drives: A 4000 Lb BeaSSt Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Crackin Azz on a hi-way near you Posts: 1,033 View My Garage	Very nice So whats the price difference between the two Just curious to know if this is another one of those "You get what you pay for" type things I'll be watching this and waiting on your outcome __________________ TEAM LS3 Best pass: 9.61 @ 146 with M6 TBDRWHP TBDRWTQ ECS S/C 408, YSi, m6, Mantic Triple, ZL1 diff #BuiltByJRod.... J-Rod's Speed Shop.... Tuned by: Matt Sorian @ MS Tuning Check out my youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/6410Jrod Follow me on Instagram: @J_Rod6410

06-24-2011, 01:39 PM	#4
Doc Dances With Mustangs Drives: 2010 1SS/RS MT Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA Posts: 3,819 View My Garage	I think I have every bushing Pedders makes; they really do transform the car. GM should just use these from the get-go. __________________ Blue Angel is here!! 1SS/RS LS3 M6 IBM

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hypurone I'm not totally useless.. Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ... Posts: 2,008 View My Garage	Shouldn't be too bad on a lift. On the ground was a bit of a bitch.... Enjoy! __________________ "You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo

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Bruce@raymondsperformance Drives: 2014 Z28 camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 705	That is a great way to start your suspension upgrade. Last edited by Bruce@raymondsperformance; 06-24-2011 at 02:27 PM.

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midnighter Account Suspended Drives: nothing Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: a hole Posts: 17,906	Let the fun begin.

06-24-2011, 02:20 PM	#8
bigsquirrel My car runs on acorns.... Drives: 2010 SS RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,351 View My Garage	I thought the install was easy enough, have heat to get those washers off. At first I couldn't tell a big difference but to more I drive it the more noticeable it gets __________________ My car runs on acorns, the tears of ricers and these other slightly less important things... 2.9 Polished Whipple, Kooks LT 1 7/8 headers, HiFlow Cats, Kooks Sleeper catback, Cooling Mist Methanol Injection, PFADT Sport Sways, PFADT Springs, PFADT rear trailing arms, ADM intake, JDP stainless brake lines, Jegs Catch can, Stock SS wheels widened to 10 3/4, Hawks HPS Pads, Pedders Rear Subframe Bushing Inserts, BMR Center Brace, MSD BAP, AAC side markers, Emblem Pro's Custom Lighted Door Sills, Dash-Floor-Cupholder ABL lighting and other stuff....

06-24-2011, 02:21 PM	#9
2010 SSRS Drives: 3 V8 Camaros Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Ocean State Posts: 111,187 View My Garage	nice and shiny __________________ Jannetty Racing JRE Street Package

06-24-2011, 05:30 PM	#13
RichJ. Shop Owner Drives: 1 ton silverado Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Medina Oh Posts: 154	Welcome to more Pedders As i have always said first you need the correct foundation.

06-24-2011, 09:18 PM	#14
SS_Killer Drives: 2010LSM6 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Valparaiso, IN Posts: 108	I think you are going to like these. My car has the Pedder's radius rod bushing inserts (which are ridiculously easy to install) and the BMR cradle bushing inserts. The BMRs look much like the Pedders inserts and are quite firm as you describe. Mine help a lot on the Autocross course. __________________ K&N Typhoon, Spohn sway bars, Pedders front radius rod bushes, BMR cradle bushing inserts, Enkei Tuning Raijins (20.7 lbs ea.), Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Specs, -2 front camber, -1 rear.

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