Ls3 ss vs Lexus isf 350

[08-G35s/6MT]

Originally Posted by LEADfoot927

Just give it up an IS350 isnt taking an SS. Im sure all these sources and dozens others are wrong. You are drawing numbers that are best case scenario, and even then it dont compare to average SS numbers.

Best case scenario ? These are automatic, all you do is power brake then floor it. These numbers are repeatable, there are some tests out there that have the Camaro SS doing bad 1/4 mile and 0-60 times(worse than IS350, 0-60 in 5s and 1/4 in solid low-mid 13s), want me to scavenge for those bad numbers like you did for the IS350 ? I guess all those numbers are wrong too... From a dig it will be close race between the IS350 and Camaro SS up to 70 mph or so, then the Camaro will take off....

[GEEo]

LOL you would've rape'd the Lexus IS350!!

IDK about the ISf though I've been waiting for that opportunity to come. lol

[Camarowguy]

What does the isf350 trap? I read around 103? If that's what the 1/4 trap speed is, the SS will walk off and leave it from a roll. From a dead, it may be kind of close to 50-60, but after that....bye bye. The SS runs usually around 110mph trap speed so it's pretty easy to guess who would win. Even if you can't drive worth poo.

[Camarowguy]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

But IS-F has 8-gears.... it should have a respectable advantage over a Camaro SS from a roll, the LS3 manual or (especially)the L99(cylinder deactivation mode, plus power disadvantage).

Wrong. The cylinder deactivation only operates during light throttle also, if you haven't noticed, the auto and manual cars run around the same quarter mile times. Who cares what the car is rated in hp, what matters is the number it runs. If you have a really good manual driver, I suppose it would beat the auto car. 8 gears in my honest opinion just means more shifting the trans has to do instead of going. I wouldn't think that would make a respectable advantage. What would make it have an advantage is it's lower first and second gear.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

But IS-F has 8-gears.... it should have a respectable advantage over a Camaro SS from a roll, the LS3 manual or (especially)the L99(cylinder deactivation mode, plus power disadvantage).

All it does is force you to shift more. The power transfer isn't strong enough between gears to make it a real advantage. Trust me, I test drove a little

Besides, I'm not saying the IS-F can't hang with Camaro SS. Talkin about the 350 here.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Wrong. The cylinder deactivation only operates during light throttle also, if you haven't noticed, the auto and manual cars run around the same quarter mile times. Who cares what the car is rated in hp, what matters is the number it runs. If you have a really good manual driver, I suppose it would beat the auto car. 8 gears in my honest opinion just means more shifting the trans has to do instead of going. I wouldn't think that would make a respectable advantage. What would make it have an advantage is it's lower first and second gear.

Also wrong. The L99 makes marginally better times than the LS3.

Seriously, I can't believe this is even under discussion. IS350 doesn't have a prayer against Camaro SS, no bones.

[08-G35s/6MT]

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Wrong. The cylinder deactivation only operates during light throttle also, if you haven't noticed, the auto and manual cars run around the same quarter mile times. Who cares what the car is rated in hp, what matters is the number it runs. If you have a really good manual driver, I suppose it would beat the auto car. 8 gears in my honest opinion just means more shifting the trans has to do instead of going. I wouldn't think that would make a respectable advantage. What would make it have an advantage is it's lower first and second gear.

We are talking about 8-speed IS-F versus Camaro SS from a roll. If you are cruising around in an auto L99 it would have to shift from 4-cylinder mode to full power, which reduces reaction and hurts throttle response. Plus the IS-F has a power AND weight advantage over the L99, whereas it just has a weight advantage versus the LS3(and gearing, obviously) The IS-F has to shift more... but it has quicker shifts, it's designed to shift much quicker than a typical automatic to compensate. This is a commonly brough up point, but no automotive engineers in their right mind is just going to throw a 10 speed auto in a car that shifts as quickly as an 4-speed, they realize this is a problem and respond by giving it quicker intervals between shifts.

[DietCoke]

An ISF and IS350 are two different cars. The ISF is faster(albeit not by much) and has a far superior transmission. The IS350 is slower then dog turds.

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by DietCoke

An ISF and IS350 are two different cars. The ISF is faster(albeit not by much) and has a far superior transmission. The IS350 is slower then dog turds.

IS-F is MUCH faster.

350: 306hp F: 416hp

Which again makes me ask, how did this even come under discussion?

[Revo1]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

We are talking about 8-speed IS-F versus Camaro SS from a roll. If you are cruising around in an auto L99 it would have to shift from 4-cylinder mode to full power, which reduces reaction and hurts throttle response. Plus the IS-F has a power AND weight advantage over the L99, whereas it just has a weight advantage versus the LS3(and gearing, obviously) The IS-F has to shift more... but it has quicker shifts, it's designed to shift much quicker than a typical automatic to compensate. This is a commonly brough up point, but no automotive engineers in their right mind is just going to throw a 10 speed auto in a car that shifts as quickly as an 4-speed, they realize this is a problem and respond by giving it quicker intervals between shifts.

But it doesn't shift THAT fast. My L99 shifts faster/harder through all 6 than the IS-F did through all eight. Plus my L99 no longer has DOD, and my tapshift is always on. To be frank, if I saw an ISF next to me at any given time, I'd feel pretty confident- having driven both cars. I wouldn't even bother squashing a 350. No sport in that.

Infinitis however... Next time you're out lookin for trouble, come find me if ya like CA isn't THAT far...

[LEADfoot927]

Originally Posted by 08-G35s/6MT

Best case scenario ? These are automatic, all you do is power brake then floor it. These numbers are repeatable, there are some tests out there that have the Camaro SS doing bad 1/4 mile and 0-60 times(worse than IS350, 0-60 in 5s and 1/4 in solid low-mid 13s), want me to scavenge for those bad numbers like you did for the IS350 ? I guess all those numbers are wrong too... From a dig it will be close race between the IS350 and Camaro SS up to 70 mph or so, then the Camaro will take off....

Please find me a review that has an SS doing 0-60 in 5.6 and a 14.xx second 1/4 mile.

[DietCoke]

Originally Posted by Revo1

IS-F is MUCH faster.

350: 306hp F: 416hp

Which again makes me ask, how did this even come under discussion?

No, I meant slightly faster then the SS camaro, not faster then the is350 turd

I'm actually quite a fan of the gearbox in the ISF. Thing shifts WAY faster then the 6l80, with much better shift extension. Not a huge fan of the body kit though, blegh!

[Neriah]

Originally Posted by Jason7

You suck at driving so the Lex woulda won....

[2SSJIM]

I've run both in my stock 2SS and beat'n both and when I say stock..... it's still the way I drove it off the lot. You would have won.