Vararam V6 intake installed!

[PieNsky]

Do the RS have the same size tires as the SS? What I am asking, are all four tires the same or do they have the larger rear tires like the SS?

[VR Baron]

Originally Posted by PieNsky

Do the RS have the same size tires as the SS? What I am asking, are all four tires the same or do they have the larger rear tires like the SS?

Same as the SS, bigs and littles

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by PittPaz

I could see it maybe being close to the same at best. I still think this intake will perform better. I honestly think this car could have pulled out a way better time with equal conditions. Just my opinion.

At any rate, I still LOVE this intake. Unless you get the same exact conditions, the track times will be hard to compare. It's quite obvious after driving this car with only adding the VR intake that it's much stronger. It's a very noticeable difference even in daily driving.

I'm not an expert on this, but isn't the point of DA corrections to eliminate the differences in times due to environmental conditions? For example:

Night A: Temp = 65 degrees, humidity = 60% 1/4mile time = 14.6

Night B: Temp = 80 d; humidity = 85% 1/4 mi = 14.8

So, say the corrected times for these runs are both 14.7 (I know this isn't the actual number, but I'm just using this as an example). By factoring in the prevailing conditions, we get an idea of how the car wold perform under standard conditions. Basically, I thought the point of corrected times was so we could compare track times under different conditions?

Obviously, this doesn't account for the driver, so different times on different nights could just be due to the driver doing better or worse.

[PittPaz]

Originally Posted by E.T.

I'm not an expert on this, but isn't the point of DA corrections to eliminate the differences in times due to environmental conditions? For example:

Night A: Temp = 65 degrees, humidity = 60% 1/4mile time = 14.6

Night B: Temp = 80 d; humidity = 85% 1/4 mi = 14.8

So, say the corrected times for these runs are both 14.7 (I know this isn't the actual number, but I'm just using this as an example). By factoring in the prevailing conditions, we get an idea of how the car wold perform under standard conditions. Basically, I thought the point of corrected times was so we could compare track times under different conditions?

Obviously, this doesn't account for the driver, so different times on different nights could just be due to the driver doing better or worse.

It's a good way to get a more accurate comparison... but an equation will never give you results that you can replicate in the real world. Still, looking at DA corrected times shows an improvement. Even if you go with the lower temperatures, it's a 3 tenths drop. If you go with the higher temperatures, it's more like 5 tenths.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by PittPaz

I could see it maybe being close to the same at best. I still think this intake will perform better. I honestly think this car could have pulled out a way better time with equal conditions. Just my opinion.

At any rate, I still LOVE this intake. Unless you get the same exact conditions, the track times will be hard to compare. It's quite obvious after driving this car with only adding the VR intake that it's much stronger. It's a very noticeable difference even in daily driving.

Yeah, best way to test things would be to swap things at the track.... I'm not really convinced there is a big learning process for the ECU... I never really seen it... sure seemed like the the ECU adjusted very rapidly...

As for the tranny tune... Yes, the shifts are much faster and firmer, which is actually better for the the tranny, but it really doesn't appear to improve the 1/4 miles times... I was very surprised by this.... I believe others have noticed the same things...

One last thing... you mentioned 2.1x 60' times... with some practice you should be able to knock that down a bit... you should be able to consistently get 2.0x... Don't be afraid to really put some hit into those tires! You pretty much have to treat them like a drag radial rather than a street tire..

[PittPaz]

Originally Posted by scrming

Also DA is a good way to get a feel on how you mods are affecting performance over time...

So while I'll never use DA to say my car is faster than your car, understanding DA and how to use it is in fact a very important thing in my book...

Bingo. This is where DA is useful imo. You don't use it to compare against other cars, but you use it to get a better idea of what you're doing with your car. Rarely in the real world do you get a chance to run before and after mods with the same exact conditions.

[rtcat600man]

Originally Posted by scrming

Yeah, best way to test things would be to swap things at the track.... I'm not really convinced there is a big learning process for the ECU... I never really seen it... sure seemed like the the ECU adjusted very rapidly...

As for the tranny tune... Yes, the shifts are much faster and firmer, which is actually better for the the tranny, but it really doesn't appear to improve the 1/4 miles times... I was very surprised by this.... I believe others have noticed the same things...

One last thing... you mentioned 2.1x 60' times... with some practice you should be able to knock that down a bit... you should be able to consistently get 2.0x... Don't be afraid to really put some hit into those tires! You pretty much have to treat them like a drag radial rather than a street tire..

correct, I saw no advantage with the trans. tune at the track.

Originally Posted by scrming

No.. DA is NOT = Ricer...

DA is VERY IMPORTANT if you are bracket racer... that's why they make things like:



Also DA is a good way to get a feel on how you mods are affecting performance over time...

So while I'll never use DA to say my car is faster than your car, understanding DA and how to use it is in fact a very important thing in my book...

+1

[KMPrenger]

So heres my quick analysis.

Wish you'd have ran your 2nd run (the one without the passenger) with the nannies on and in sport mode since that seems to consistently get better times than running manual mode and TC off. But no biggie.

You ran around a tenth faster that run that your prior run in better weather. Everyone else ran 2 or 3 tenths slower than last time.

Might be "ricer" math, but that tells me that for your run, this intake could worth 3 or 4 tenths in the quarter on a stock car. Not too shabby

Heres more "ricer" math for ya...Rough estimates say need another 100 HP (all else being equal) to gain a second in the quarter. So if the above is true, you could say the intake might be adding up to 30 HP once you get her running down the track. Of course that might be a bit optimistic. lol.

Results look good to me...but hopefully we can see more runs in the future to see what others are getting.

[bmorecam]

^^^^^


Get daaaaaa FLLLLLLLLUCK outta heya!!! "King kong aint got nuttin on me!!" --danzel washington voice-

[BenningJ]

You know what I think is RICE, having two 4th gen Camaro 16" rims on your GTO. Why not get a decent set of racing rims.....that match?

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

SK360....

...leave. Please.

Go troll somewhere else.

[Agarc]

Originally Posted by BenningJ

You know what I think is RICE, having two 4th gen Camaro 16" rims on your GTO. Why not get a decent set of racing rims.....that match?




Go troll somewhere else.

Gez i was just thinking that i dont even think some honda guys do this... got rims at the flea market and a fade lol

[TJ91]

I want to post in this thread, but im having a hard time figuring out if its even worth my time.

Im not understanding why he would come into a Intake development thread and then talk shit about omg what cai is the best? Its a development thread, with a vendor wanting to be the best power wise, obviously this thread will have comparisons to the competeing intakes like the Injen.

[TJ91]

all this rice shit is just annoying.


Omg he washed his car with one bucket and not the two bucket system!!.....THATS RICCCCCEEEEEE

[TJ91]

Originally Posted by bmorecam

^^^^^


Get daaaaaa FLLLLLLLLUCK outta heya!!! "King kong aint got nuttin on me!!" --danzel washington voice-

bro im dieing here