Vararam V6 intake installed!

[ChadG]

Yeah mine isn't much different than GTO's picture, I didn't think it reflected poorly in the build quality. Overall I was impressed with the build quality to be honest. Time will tell when I test it out tomorrow.

[esperman]

Originally Posted by 67 GTO

Just for reference, here's a pic of mine.

[Nova65SS]

I am not sure what my plan of action will be yet. I really enjoyed the time I was able to use this. I just cannot fathom how noone else has run into the issues I am having. If the VR is attached to the TB flush and yet is bearing down and forwards on the radiator at rest- how can it not modify that interface when torquing all over with the engine? I would think if it just floated and wasnt bearing against the radiator all would be well here. If its going to ride on the radiator the interface to the TB needs to be more flexible. I am positive the engine isnt mounted on solid mounts- gonna flex while going over bumps also. If there was an allowance of several millimeters of silicone hose or similar to deal with all that engine inertia- again no problem. Two HARD interfaces (TB/VR horn) connected with a hose with NO slack inbetween AND pushing against a mounting point (the back of the radiator tank) doesnt seem like it is sustainable. Especially when one of said interfaces becomes a bit pliable when heated (deforming horns). Much to think on....hmmn. Evidence of this pressure on the radiator can be seen on the heatmat(3 or 4 ribs wearing through in a couple hundred miles). If I can just get 1/2" of clearance to let this thing float..........hmmn.

[ChadG]

Originally Posted by Nova65SS

I am not sure what my plan of action will be yet. I really enjoyed the time I was able to use this. I just cannot fathom how noone else has run into the issues I am having. If the VR is attached to the TB flush and yet is bearing down and forwards on the radiator at rest- how can it not modify that interface when torquing all over with the engine? I would think if it just floated and wasnt bearing against the radiator all would be well here. If its going to ride on the radiator the interface to the TB needs to be more flexible. I am positive the engine isnt mounted on solid mounts- gonna flex while going over bumps also. If there was an allowance of several millimeters of silicone hose or similar to deal with all that engine inertia- again no problem. Two HARD interfaces (TB/VR horn) connected with a hose with NO slack inbetween AND pushing against a mounting point (the back of the radiator tank) doesnt seem like it is sustainable. Especially when one of said interfaces becomes a bit pliable when heated (deforming horns).

You make a good point, there is absolutely no play in my setup as well.

[bmorecam]

I really wish its as simple as getting it centered. I tried everything from trying different positions to doing acrobat with my fingers and hands lol.
im sure the thumbscrew's anchor(I think thats what is called) itself was damaged. Things like this can happen im sure but being that this is a piece that suppose to correct the first one I think this type of problem could have been and should of been avoided before it even got shipped.

Also, is not the big pile of glue around most of the parts that really worry me but is the area right where the MAF meter is that bother me the most. If you look at my last pic where I have it circled in red, that execessive glue in the way of airflow should not be there at all. The whole theory behind this rear neck is to have as smooth airflow as possible right? so I dont understand how thats possible when you have a pile of glue sticking up in the way of the airflow

[BSR-1]

Originally Posted by Nova65SS

I am not sure what my plan of action will be yet. I really enjoyed the time I was able to use this. I just cannot fathom how noone else has run into the issues I am having. If the VR is attached to the TB flush and yet is bearing down and forwards on the radiator at rest- how can it not modify that interface when torquing all over with the engine? I would think if it just floated and wasnt bearing against the radiator all would be well here. If its going to ride on the radiator the interface to the TB needs to be more flexible. I am positive the engine isnt mounted on solid mounts- gonna flex while going over bumps also. If there was an allowance of several millimeters of silicone hose or similar to deal with all that engine inertia- again no problem. Two HARD interfaces (TB/VR horn) connected with a hose with NO slack inbetween AND pushing against a mounting point (the back of the radiator tank) doesnt seem like it is sustainable. Especially when one of said interfaces becomes a bit pliable when heated (deforming horns).

Your concerns are just what I was talking about several pages back.
Rather than moving the radiator back I think it would need to be lowered to make this really a feasible setup.
It would allow a much larger intake surface and wouldn't block as much air from getting to the radiator.

[rtcat600man]

Rushed to market?

Glue issues, Fitment issues, Wing nut issues, Radiator Bracket modifications, Delivery time frame issues.

Sure am glad I am in love with my INJEN.

Hope this all gets sorted out for those who are still waiting or going to be purchasing this in the future.

[Nova65SS]

I wonder if a "stepped" plenum would allow clearance and what if any effect it would have on airflow. You would have to send smoke through and observe. Way beyond my ability to modify this thing to that lvl. Need to make an acrylic one! (jk)

[E.T.]

Originally Posted by Nova65SS

I am not sure what my plan of action will be yet. I really enjoyed the time I was able to use this. I just cannot fathom how noone else has run into the issues I am having. If the VR is attached to the TB flush and yet is bearing down and forwards on the radiator at rest- how can it not modify that interface when torquing all over with the engine? I would think if it just floated and wasnt bearing against the radiator all would be well here. If its going to ride on the radiator the interface to the TB needs to be more flexible. I am positive the engine isnt mounted on solid mounts- gonna flex while going over bumps also. If there was an allowance of several millimeters of silicone hose or similar to deal with all that engine inertia- again no problem. Two HARD interfaces (TB/VR horn) connected with a hose with NO slack inbetween AND pushing against a mounting point (the back of the radiator tank) doesnt seem like it is sustainable. Especially when one of said interfaces becomes a bit pliable when heated (deforming horns). Much to think on....hmmn. Evidence of this pressure on the radiator can be seen on the heatmat(3 or 4 ribs wearing through in a couple hundred miles). If I can just get 1/2" of clearance to let this thing float..........hmmn.

Not having any room to flex concerns me. I'm sure the engine moves a bit. Have you ever revved it with the hood popped? You can see the whole engine sort of twist a little bit (or maybe it's the car)...at any rate, there is movement.

[Nova65SS]

Hehe - I use polyurethane mounts in my nova and that little 331 shakes the whole car with my cam lol So - yeah I believe this engine/trans with its squishy rubber factory stuff has gotta move. Imagine over a pothole.BTW the hmmns arent sarcastic- Im honestly thinking hard enough to hmmn lol! Must fix this thing......

[67 GTO]

Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Wholey crap, these look like crap

Could the epoxy been applied a little more neatly, for sure but it's on the inside and not seen. It's sealed to my satisfaction and not worried about air flow distburbance.

Hell the MAF meter blocks the flow more than anything and as scrming pointed out to us the PCV tube stuck into the intake manifold is way to long and blocks flow. I think he cut his shorter. LOL..

The big issue to me is the problem with how some of the VR's intake horn/tube won't set flush with the TB.

Just a guess, but if the radiator sits a little high it will cause this problem.

[sales@vararam.com]

Still too tight? There is some vehicle variation , but if a unit is to tight for any reason just call us direct ( 713 477 8100 Monday-Friday). We can custom cut a unit if needed on a case by case basis, 99% will fit perfectly. There is always going to be 1% production vehicle variation .



Excess glue? The material used is a DOW product that forms a chemical weld ,forming multiple pieces into one solid part. Our production team started welding the seam areas as well as the mounting surfaces . The seam area is what you are seeing in these pictures. This does not hurt airflow, it actually helps air transfer into the primary air horn.



Thumb screw won't go down and is now free spinning- The Pem nut/ threaded insert is brass, it has probably been cross threaded by the thumb screw when it was re-assembled. This is easy to fix, simply hold the Pem with large pliers and unscrew the thumb screw. Now work the screw back and forth and it will de- burr the thread , now run the thumb screw down.



At VR we guarantee our customers satisfaction with every product we build or we will take the product back and pay shipping both ways. So if a product does not work for you or you simply don't like it, that's not a problem we will take it back.


Please call us with questions at 713-477-8100 or the tech line at 713-899-6456



VR Tech

[ChadG]

Originally Posted by sales@vararam.com

Still too tight? There is some vehicle variation , but if a unit is to tight for any reason just call us direct ( 713 477 8100 Monday-Friday). We can custom cut a unit if needed on a case by case basis, 99% will fit perfectly. There is always going to be 1% production vehicle variation .



Excess glue? The material used is a DOW product that forms a chemical weld ,forming multiple pieces into one solid part. Our production team started welding the seam areas as well as the mounting surfaces . The seam area is what you are seeing in these pictures. This does not hurt airflow, it actually helps air transfer into the primary air horn.



Thumb screw won't go down and is now free spinning- The Pem nut/ threaded insert is brass, it has probably been cross threaded by the thumb screw when it was re-assembled. This is easy to fix, simply hold the Pem with large pliers and unscrew the thumb screw. Now work the screw back and forth and it will de- burr the thread , now run the thumb screw down.



At VR we guarantee our customers satisfaction with every product we build or we will take the product back and pay shipping both ways. So if a product does not work for you or you simply don't like it, that's not a problem we will take it back.


Please call us with questions at 713-477-8100 or the tech line at 713-899-6456



VR Tech

Can't beat that . . . thanks Vararam!

[bmorecam]

Originally Posted by sales@vararam.com

Still too tight? There is some vehicle variation , but if a unit is to tight for any reason just call us direct ( 713 477 8100 Monday-Friday). We can custom cut a unit if needed on a case by case basis, 99% will fit perfectly. There is always going to be 1% production vehicle variation .



Excess glue? The material used is a DOW product that forms a chemical weld ,forming multiple pieces into one solid part. Our production team started welding the seam areas as well as the mounting surfaces . The seam area is what you are seeing in these pictures. This does not hurt airflow, it actually helps air transfer into the primary air horn.



Thumb screw won't go down and is now free spinning- The Pem nut/ threaded insert is brass, it has probably been cross threaded by the thumb screw when it was re-assembled. This is easy to fix, simply hold the Pem with large pliers and unscrew the thumb screw. Now work the screw back and forth and it will de- burr the thread , now run the thumb screw down.



At VR we guarantee our customers satisfaction with every product we build or we will take the product back and pay shipping both ways. So if a product does not work for you or you simply don't like it, that's not a problem we will take it back.


Please call us with questions at 713-477-8100 or the tech line at 713-899-6456



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I've already tried what you mentioned and there's absolutely no way that the screw is going to go in even after holding the other side with a grip plier. It almost look as tho the threading is only halfway inside the anchor