Skid pad numbers, we are 2nd to last. why?

[Mr Twisty]

I think you're a little premature defending the mustang, once accurate hot laps are out I'm guesing it'll be embarrassing...Unless it's a roush, then it'll be "I almost kept up!" from the mustang driver.

[eddiehaskell]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

I think you're a little premature defending the mustang, once accurate hot laps are out I'm guesing it'll be embarrassing...Unless it's a roush, then it'll be "I almost kept up!" from the mustang driver.

Yep. Going around the track, it's probably going to take one of the high dollar ($45,000+) Mustangs to take out the Camaro.

Even if the Mustang could keep up in the corners, it would get thrashed in the straights....Camaro traps 111mph, Mustang traps 103mph....huge power difference.

[perfxn]

im not defending the mustang at all. I just didnt like the times edmunds gave us. kinda felt like a slap in the face. That new suspesion and IRS added weight so it made me feel like it was not as impressive as i once had thought, thats all.

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

I think you're a little premature defending the mustang, once accurate hot laps are out I'm guesing it'll be embarrassing...Unless it's a roush, then it'll be "I almost kept up!" from the mustang driver.

Who's defending the Mustang? All that has been said is that the Camaro is not as far ahead of the 2010 GT as many would have led you to believe from their posts on this and other sites. One had better hope the Camaro is leaps and bounds ahead, or there will be some extremely disappointed Gen5 owners out and about this summer/fall. One of them could very well be me.

[eddiehaskell]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Who's defending the Mustang? All that has been said is that the Camaro is not as far ahead of the 2010 GT as many would have led you to believe from their posts on this and other sites. One had better hope the Camaro is leaps and bounds ahead, or there wil be some extremely disappointed Gen5 owners out and about this summer/fall. One of them could very well be me.

The Camaro is doing exactly what was expected.

Ford just happened to add a $1200 trackpack for '10 so the Mustang wouldn't look so inferior. Granted, the cars will likely still be on different planets while on the track. The Mustang's trackpack allows it to do well in test like 0-60 (3.73 gears) and skidpad/slalom (sticky tires/stiffer suspension).

Oh, and what's stopping GM from adding a "trackpack" to the Camaro later on (not that it needs it).

[2K05GT]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Who's defending the Mustang? All that has been said is that the Camaro is not as far ahead of the 2010 GT as many would have led you to believe from their posts on this and other sites. One had better hope the Camaro is leaps and bounds ahead, or there wil be some extremely disappointed Gen5 owners out and about this summer/fall. One of them could very well be me.

I will be one..
I was hoping that the Camaro would out handle my Mustang by a wide margin since thats why I wanted it. My Mustang is Setup better for the Drag Strip, the Camaro was going to be my twisties car.

I have not put any suspension mods on my Mustang and I ran VIR (Virginia International Raceway) full track in under 3 min Blowing by Beemers in the straights and catching them in the turns, they were flipping out thinking the Mustang Handled like a boat, it does'nt. it's a handfull though.

My Camaro will only be getting an Intake and tune so I don't expect it to out run my mustang in the 1/4 mile (I run 12.29 @ 110) with Stock Motor and auto tranny (3500 Stall) No Spray, no Cams, no FI, 100% Naturally Aspirated on 93 pump gas and Bolt-ons with DR mounted in 17x9 stock rims.

[pharmd]

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

I will be one..
I was hoping that the Camaro would out handle my Mustang by a wide margin since thats why I wanted it. My Mustang is Setup better for the Drag Strip, the Camaro was going to be my twisties car.

I have not put any suspension mods on my Mustang and I ran VIR (Virginia International Raceway) full track in under 3 min Blowing by Beemers in the straights and catching them in the turns, they were flipping out thinking the Mustang Handled like a boat, it does'nt. it's a handfull though.

My Camaro will only be getting an Intake and tune so I don't expect it to out run my mustang in the 1/4 mile (I run 12.29 @ 110) with Stock Motor and auto tranny (3500 Stall) No Spray, no Cams, no FI, 100% Naturally Aspirated on 93 pump gas and Bolt-ons with DR mounted in 17x9 stock rims.

Your MPH tells the story, perform the same mods to the camaro and it will go faster and quicker....M6 already mph's 111...The SS will go 11's with bolt-ons...

[eddiehaskell]

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

I will be one..
I was hoping that the Camaro would out handle my Mustang by a wide margin since thats why I wanted it. My Mustang is Setup better for the Drag Strip, the Camaro was going to be my twisties car.

I have not put any suspension mods on my Mustang and I ran VIR (Virginia International Raceway) full track in under 3 min Blowing by Beemers in the straights and catching them in the turns, they were flipping out thinking the Mustang Handled like a boat, it does'nt. it's a handfull though.

My Camaro will only be getting an Intake and tune so I don't expect it to out run my mustang in the 1/4 mile (I run 12.29 @ 110) with Stock Motor and auto tranny (3500 Stall) No Spray, no Cams, no FI, 100% Naturally Aspirated on 93 pump gas and Bolt-ons with DR mounted in 17x9 stock rims.

With a stock suspension, the Camaro will blister your Mustang around the track.

With a stock motor/no spray, cams or forced induction, the Camaro will be running deep into the 11s at 117mph+.

Add a cam (easy mod for LSx engines) and Camaros will likely be running low 11s or 10s (especially stalled autos).

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by eddiehaskell

The Camaro is doing exactly what was expected.

Ford just happened to add a $1200 trackpack for '10 so the Mustang wouldn't look so inferior. Granted, the cars will likely still be on different planets while on the track. The Mustang's trackpack allows it to do well in test like 0-60 (3.73 gears) and skidpad/slalom (sticky tires/stiffer suspension).

Oh, and what's stopping GM from adding a "trackpack" to the Camaro later on (not that it needs it).

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but it is doing almost exactly what I expected. See Eddie, here's the thing you might have missed during your whopping 6 posts on the site.

1)I am not a Ford/Mustang fanyboy. I own/have owned GM and Dodge vehicles currently and in the past. I happen to be driving a GT500 right now.

2)Unless something unexpected happens with my finances in the next few months, I will have a 2SS in the garage next to the GT500, so I hope the performance is as good as it can possibly be right out of the box.

3)What GM does and not offer in the future is entirely dependent on their financial situation. Time will tell.

4)Help me understand where you derive your vast amount of knowledge regarding all things automotive. So far all you have shown me is an ability to regurgitate what others have said before you and the idea that maybe you've watched too much "Leave It to Beaver".

[eddiehaskell]

Well I mean, anyone should recognize that the Camaro isn't going to perform like a Corvette. That's just common sense.

However, it will whip the Mustang GT in a straight line or around the road course. What more does it need to do? It will also take out the $40k Challenger SRT8.

[Xanthos]

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

I will be one..
I was hoping that the Camaro would out handle my Mustang by a wide margin since thats why I wanted it. My Mustang is Setup better for the Drag Strip, the Camaro was going to be my twisties car.

I have not put any suspension mods on my Mustang and I ran VIR (Virginia International Raceway) full track in under 3 min Blowing by Beemers in the straights and catching them in the turns, they were flipping out thinking the Mustang Handled like a boat, it does'nt. it's a handfull though.

My Camaro will only be getting an Intake and tune so I don't expect it to out run my mustang in the 1/4 mile (I run 12.29 @ 110) with Stock Motor and auto tranny (3500 Stall) No Spray, no Cams, no FI, 100% Naturally Aspirated on 93 pump gas and Bolt-ons with DR mounted in 17x9 stock rims.

If you're talking about it beating your heavily modded car, how can you even possibly expect that?

If you're talking about your car when it was stock, it will hand it it's ass in a paper sack. It beat the 2010 with track pack - it would soundly thrash any pre-2010 or non-track pack mustang.
- Xanthos

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

I have not put any suspension mods on my Mustang and I ran VIR (Virginia International Raceway) full track in under 3 min Blowing by Beemers in the straights and catching them in the turns, they were flipping out thinking the Mustang Handled like a boat, it does'nt. it's a handfull though.

Not everyone cranks it to 11 even on a track...Especially if it's their daily driver, little experience, etc. Not belittling anyones skill, but maybe, just maybe, they weren't trying to beat you. Reminds me of a pro golfer that told me, "Boy, I could beat your score with just a 7 iron." (yes he did.)

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by eddiehaskell

Well I mean, anyone should recognize that the Camaro isn't going to perform like a Corvette. That's just common sense.

However, it will whip the Mustang GT in a straight line or around the road course. What more does it need to do?

I don't know, sell like water in a desert maybe?

[Caliman93230]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Well, I can't speak for everyone, but it is doing almost exactly what I expected. See Eddie, here's the thing you might have missed during your whopping 6 posts on the site.

1)I am not a Ford/Mustang fanyboy. I own/have owned GM and Dodge vehicles currently and in the past. I happen to be driving a GT500 right now.

2)Unless something unexpected happens with my finances in the next few months, I will have a 2SS in the garage next to the GT500, so I hope the performance is as good as it can possibly be right out of the box.

3)What GM does and not offer in the future is entirely dependent on their financial situation. Time will tell.

4)Help me understand where you derive your vast amount of knowledge regarding all things automotive. So far all you have shown me is an ability to regurgitate what others have said before you and the idea that maybe you've watched too much "Leave It to Beaver".

lol the gt 500 blows big time, sorry but that's according to the review