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Chocolate Apocalypse · 03-21-2009, 12:29 PM

Why shouldnt it be 5%? lol
15 is pretty much the standard when you're talking manual RWD transmissions. I've owned 2 T56 LS1 Camaros and while they were rated at 305 from the factory ('98-'00), could easily make 280+ rwhp on a dynojet. That didnt mean the drivetrain loss was crazy low, just that the F-Bod LS1s were underrated. Looks to me like the LS3 in the 5th Gen is right on the money rated at 426hp.

SGOS252382 · 03-21-2009, 12:54 PM

Every car is different. Every dyno is different (+,- some ponies).
The car may need more miles (hp numbers usually increase with some miles on the car).
This dyno doesn't read "high numbers" like many other dynoes.

Time will tell. We will need to see more cars dynoed on many different dynoes to get a true picture.

And the numbers are definately not bad 380 lb ft of torque (stock).

duder4thgen · 03-21-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGOS252382

Every car is different. Every dyno is different (+,- some ponies).
The car may need more miles (hp numbers usually increase with some miles on the car).
This dyno doesn't read "high numbers" like many other dynoes.

Time will tell. We will need to see more cars dynoed on many different dynoes to get a true picture.

And the numbers are definately not bad 380 lb ft of torque (stock).

+1. Dyno's are a tuning tool, the only real guage of a cars performance is at the track. Without other dyno's to compare it to, the numbers are irrelevant. If the numbers do turn out to be the average, I would say it has more to do with the air box/baffles than anything else.

TJ91 · 03-21-2009, 01:12 PM

Ls3

*DGthe3* · 03-21-2009, 01:18 PM

Also, this is 1 car on 1 dyno on 1 day. Do all corvettes on every dyno make 385 hp? No. Some do, some don't. Also, Corvettes are said to have lower drive losses, so a 436 hp Corvette @ 12% loss = 384 whp. A 426 hp Camaro @ 15% loss = 362 whp.

65535 · 03-21-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

Who knows how the hell they got a car to dyno but it pulled 364hp and 371 lb/ft of torque at the wheels.

Thoughts?

LS3 or L99?

If it's LS3, it does not compare favorably to the hemi 6.1, which gets about 380hp to the wheels with the 6spd.

If it's L99, that is an excellent number.

edit: never mind:

Quote:

It's the manual trans.

http://motownmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97986

So the net hp is less than the 6.1 Challenger by about 20-25. About 30hp better than the 5.7 Challenger.

Wish there were a way to test the amount of loss through the drivetrain.

1) Either Chevy's numbers are overstated for crank hp
2) Or Dodge's numbers are understated
3) Or there is a large difference in driveline loss between the two cars. (doubt it since it's an identical trans...)

Very very interesting results.

Revo1 · 03-21-2009, 01:47 PM

Sooo, 425 is a flywheel number I take it?

Whatever, will still make Mustang cry

kunkelz28 · 03-21-2009, 01:51 PM

What did the LS2 GTO put down stock?

65535 · 03-21-2009, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kunkelz28

What did the LS2 GTO put down stock?

did the ls2 have the t6060 or the t56?

Just noticed this is on a dynojet. No correction factor was posted.

I would take these numbers with a grain of salt.

bobby35ny · 03-21-2009, 01:58 PM

I've seen dynojet dyno's range +/- 20hp. you really need to thier numbers on other cars on the SAME dyno.

Sky is not falling yet, LOL

-bobby

kunkelz28 · 03-21-2009, 02:00 PM

I have a 04 GTO and i pretty sure it has the t6060

bobby35ny · 03-21-2009, 02:04 PM

same dyno, the G8 GXP made 351.
Camaro makes 13hp more, thats seems right to me, I think the g8 makes 415 from gm no?

just checked things, ya 415 from GM, 11 diff. looks like camaro did even better..

-bobby

65355 says the below which I kind of agree with.
I'm thinking intake/exhaust bottleneck OR which I fear..........driveline lose maybe due to the irs design?

Wish there were a way to test the amount of loss through the drivetrain.

1) Either Chevy's numbers are overstated for crank hp
2) Or Dodge's numbers are understated
3) Or there is a large difference in driveline loss between the two cars. (doubt it since it's an identical trans...)

ZeeTwentyFour · 03-21-2009, 02:12 PM

seems kinda weak. Only time will tell.

silverc5vert · 03-21-2009, 02:23 PM

Just to clear some things up.

The car is a manual trans LS3 with roughy 1,000 miles. The correction factor used was SAE.

We have been told in the past that our Dyno Jet is somewhat conservative, but we have it calibrated at least twice a year. For reference, a stock LS7 Z06 and stock Shelby GT-500 makes 440 RWHP, a stock LS2 manual trans vette makes about 340 RWHP.

Hope this helps.

-Rick

03-21-2009, 12:29 PM	#29
Chocolate Apocalypse Full Fledged Member Drives: '18 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 346 View My Garage	Why shouldnt it be 5%? lol 15 is pretty much the standard when you're talking manual RWD transmissions. I've owned 2 T56 LS1 Camaros and while they were rated at 305 from the factory ('98-'00), could easily make 280+ rwhp on a dynojet. That didnt mean the drivetrain loss was crazy low, just that the F-Bod LS1s were underrated. Looks to me like the LS3 in the 5th Gen is right on the money rated at 426hp. __________________ '18 1SS 1LE - DD '72 Cutlass - LSA topped 370" LS2

03-21-2009, 01:18 PM	#33
DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,366	Also, this is 1 car on 1 dyno on 1 day. Do all corvettes on every dyno make 385 hp? No. Some do, some don't. Also, Corvettes are said to have lower drive losses, so a 436 hp Corvette @ 12% loss = 384 whp. A 426 hp Camaro @ 15% loss = 362 whp. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

03-21-2009, 01:47 PM	#35
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	Sooo, 425 is a flywheel number I take it? Whatever, will still make Mustang cry __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

03-21-2009, 01:58 PM	#38
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,023	I've seen dynojet dyno's range +/- 20hp. you really need to thier numbers on other cars on the SAME dyno. Sky is not falling yet, LOL -bobby __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

03-21-2009, 02:12 PM	#41
ZeeTwentyFour Does not have a Camaro Drives: 99 silverado Z71/66 Chevelle SS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 469 View My Garage	seems kinda weak. Only time will tell. __________________

03-21-2009, 12:54 PM	#30
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	Every car is different. Every dyno is different (+,- some ponies). The car may need more miles (hp numbers usually increase with some miles on the car). This dyno doesn't read "high numbers" like many other dynoes. Time will tell. We will need to see more cars dynoed on many different dynoes to get a true picture. And the numbers are definately not bad 380 lb ft of torque (stock).

03-21-2009, 01:12 PM	#32
TJ91 :chevy: Drives: 2LT/RS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 13,035	Ls3

03-21-2009, 01:51 PM	#36
kunkelz28 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St Cloud Minnesota Posts: 320	What did the LS2 GTO put down stock?

03-21-2009, 02:00 PM	#39
kunkelz28 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS RS Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St Cloud Minnesota Posts: 320	I have a 04 GTO and i pretty sure it has the t6060

03-21-2009, 02:23 PM	#42
silverc5vert Drives: C5 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Westland, MI Posts: 19	Just to clear some things up. The car is a manual trans LS3 with roughy 1,000 miles. The correction factor used was SAE. We have been told in the past that our Dyno Jet is somewhat conservative, but we have it calibrated at least twice a year. For reference, a stock LS7 Z06 and stock Shelby GT-500 makes 440 RWHP, a stock LS2 manual trans vette makes about 340 RWHP. Hope this helps. -Rick

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