If I bought the LT could I engine swap for a v-8 engine down the road?

[PD123]

V8s are just more fun to drive.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by PD123

My parents will be fronting most of the cost of the car. Some of it will be a gift for graduation, the next couple of christmas' and birthdays. Most of it will be a loan which I will slowly pay off in the next couple of years. So, yes some of the issue is that extra $10 per month, which does add up, and much more gas money over the years. It uses premium fuel and is less fuel efficient than the V6.

Premium fuel is only recommended, not required. And I guarantee you I could drive a V6 and burn more gas than going the same distance in a V8. I'd have to drive like a maniac in the 6 and a granny in the SS but I could do it. Point is, you have almost as much control over your fuel economy as manufacturers do.

[lil_chef]

I would get the V6 (like i am) and then save up for either the next gen V8 or a special mid life update V8 that way you enjoy the greatness of the camaro while still anticipating the v8 just a bit farther down the road

[O2BQIK]

Originally Posted by PD123

I was planning on putting things like a supercharger and an intake in the v6 to make it competitive. Also, from what I've been hearing. This v6 is going to turn some heads with its performance for a v6. 300 hp seems to be a lot for a v6. I would love at least for a time to roll up to the richer people with the stock ss and beat them with the v6 with mods.

Over the years I've heard many people talk about doing something like this. Yet, I've never once seen someone do it. The reason is that it's just not cost-efficient. The aftermarket will be tremendous for the SS, but few aftermarket speed shops are going to spend any money for research and development for V6 parts, because there just aren't many V6 owners who want to mod them. This translates to extremely high costs to do anything you want to do. Besides that, forced induction is very complicated on a DOHC motor since the timing changes. Most supercharged or turbocharged vehicles are not DOHC.

It's not that it's impossible, but modding the V6 to compete with the LS3 will cost you a fortune...far more than just buying an SS. And I agree that the money you would spend on an engine swap would be enough to buy a second car. There's nothing wrong with thinking outside the box, but it would be financially wiser to simply buy the SS (either now, or after a few years when you can afford it).

[LosXC451]

it will take serious modifications. if you want a v8 just by the SS

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by O2BQIK

Over the years I've heard many people talk about doing something like this. Yet, I've never once seen someone do it. The reason is that it's just not cost-efficient. The aftermarket will be tremendous for the SS, but few aftermarket speed shops are going to spend any money for research and development for V6 parts, because there just aren't many V6 owners who want to mod them. This translates to extremely high costs to do anything you want to do. Besides that, forced induction is very complicated on a DOHC motor since the timing changes. Most supercharged or turbocharged vehicles are not DOHC.

It's not that it's impossible, but modding the V6 to compete with the LS3 will cost you a fortune...far more than just buying an SS. And I agree that the money you would spend on an engine swap would be enough to buy a second car. There's nothing wrong with thinking outside the box, but it would be financially wiser to simply buy the SS (either now, or after a few years when you can afford it).

they've already got a supercharger for the v-6. not to mention I can forsee an STS TT setup to be coming in the very near future.


as for the part of your statement I have highlighted... thats open to debate. there's that nice little thing called imports.... and they love to go FI.

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

they've already got a supercharger for the v-6. not to mention I can forsee an STS TT setup to be coming in the very near future.


as for the part of your statement I have highlighted... thats open to debate. there's that nice little thing called imports.... and they love to go FI.

+1

i think almost ALL forced induction imports are DOHC.

[Vash]

Wait for SS's to be used and in 2-3 years they will be cheaper than the base is today.

Operation Vulture is what I am doing.

[gm4life05sle]

Get the car you want now. Do not wait, but if you must have a V6 now, get it and drive 'er for a few years, then trade for an SS with a V8 later on. I going to wait a few years to get one and exactly what I want an SS with a V8!

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by fastball

If Scott reads this I'm sure he'll tell you..... no matter how much money you have, a V6 to V8 swap in the 5th gen Camaro will be IMPOSSIBLE.

The engines have different mounting hardware, and we aren't just talking engine mounts: the front subframe and unit body sub assemblies are engineered different for LS/LT and SS.

The ECMs are different. So are the main wire harnesses. Electronics are the big issue..... the intrumentation and calibration of everything is all interconnected and interengineered based on the engine/transmission combo it is built with at the factory.

Long gone are the days when a Saturday afternoon, a cherry pick, a couple of good friends, and a 12 pack of beer were all you needed to convert a V6 to a V8.

NO NO NO!

It's NOT rocket science to do a swap. That's the same crap people were saying when automakers went to EFI. Now we've not only broken the proprietary code, but you can even buy or build your own aftermarket ECM.

I'm not gonna go into details, but I will say this...When the LS1 came out everyone was complaining they couldn't hotrod it because of all the hi-tech engineering that went into it, then I heard a fella by the name of John Lingenfelter say "Bullshit! Lemme look."

Just wait till crashed SS's show up in salvage yards, there's gonna be more than a few V6 looking cars that are gonna be running like a V8...guess why.

Remember the V6 Camaro at Indy Bash that had a 'surprise' under the hood??? Or the Vegas cars? C'mon guys!

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by fastball

If Scott reads this I'm sure he'll tell you..... no matter how much money you have, a V6 to V8 swap in the 5th gen Camaro will be IMPOSSIBLE.

The engines have different mounting hardware, and we aren't just talking engine mounts: the front subframe and unit body sub assemblies are engineered different for LS/LT and SS.

The ECMs are different. So are the main wire harnesses. Electronics are the big issue..... the intrumentation and calibration of everything is all interconnected and interengineered based on the engine/transmission combo it is built with at the factory.

Long gone are the days when a Saturday afternoon, a cherry pick, a couple of good friends, and a 12 pack of beer were all you needed to convert a V6 to a V8.

ok... so everything is different. that doesnt mean its impossible. just more work required to do the swap.

case in point....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14985

by your logic, those swaps should have been impossible. but they were done. might have taken a while and required some custom fab work, but thats part of hotrodding

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

ok... so everything is different. that doesnt mean its impossible. just more work required to do the swap.

case in point....

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14985

by your logic, those swaps should have been impossible. but they were done. might have taken a while and required some custom fab work, but thats part of hotrodding

I don't trust your links anymore beeotch

Check out the diesel 4th gen thread too.

That's the nice part of it...You won't need any fab work here, there will be a big book at the GM parts counter with every little thing you'll need. I prefer the crash V8 donor car route myself.

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

I don't trust your links anymore beeotch

Check out the diesel 4th gen thread too.

That's the nice part of it...You won't need any fab work here, there will be a big book at the GM parts counter with every little thing you'll need. I prefer the crash V8 donor car route myself.

the link is valid. ive stopped posting the rick rolls outside of the off topic forum