IPS turbo install

[ipimpthisc]

oh btw way at dyno i ran 580 rwhp on 8 psi with mustang dyno....baseline hp was 366 at the wheel. This was with no real tune...just a few runs until the hose blew off...due to insufficient clamp pressure.

[ipimpthisc]

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[SRT10KLLR]

I agree with you on many points.

The worm gear clams should be swapped to T-Bolt clamps even if it is an upgrade for an additional amount. But, I will say they should not have come off with just 8psi. The Black Hemi in my sig has a rear mount(about 12t of piping) turbo and I never had any problems with the silicone couplers coming off even with the worm clamps. The IPS piping even has bead rolled piping for better grip that the Hemi does not have.

Also, as far as the injectors go that is an issue with your tuner not liking them. It does not necessarily mean that they are not good. I bought them separately from FIC because I wanted bigger(more flow) so I went with 95lb(108lb) ones.

As for the referencing of the boost I am not sure exactly what you mean. If it is what I am thinking then I prefer it by the intake manifold. On the Hemi the wastegate had a reference coming from the turbo. One drawback from having it that way was say you had a 8lb WG spring then because of the IC(intercooler) you would only be getting 6.5PSI. If you reference it from a vacuum source coming from the intake manifold(brake booster) then you will see the full 8PSI.

Getting a gain of 214rwhp from 8PSI is really good. That is 26.75rwhp per lb of boost.

[axis]

Originally Posted by SRT10KLLR

I agree with you on many points.

The worm gear clams should be swapped to T-Bolt clamps even if it is an upgrade for an additional amount. But, I will say they should not have come off with just 8psi. The Black Hemi in my sig has a rear mount(about 12t of piping) turbo and I never had any problems with the silicone couplers coming off even with the worm clamps. The IPS piping even has bead rolled piping for better grip that the Hemi does not have.

Also, as far as the injectors go that is an issue with your tuner not liking them. It does not necessarily mean that they are not good. I bought them separately from FIC because I wanted bigger(more flow) so I went with 95lb(108lb) ones.

As for the referencing of the boost I am not sure exactly what you mean. If it is what I am thinking then I prefer it by the intake manifold. On the Hemi the wastegate had a reference coming from the turbo. One drawback from having it that way was say you had a 8lb WG spring then because of the IC(intercooler) you would only be getting 6.5PSI. If you reference it from a vacuum source coming from the intake manifold(brake booster) then you will see the full 8PSI.

Getting a gain of 214rwhp from 8PSI is really good. That is 26.75rwhp per lb of boost.

I agree.

Typically, tuners like what they're use to. Doesn't necessarily mean the injectors are crap. There's always a pressure drop across the IC so referencing your boost there isn't a bad idea, other than I wouldn't like extra holes drilled in my IC. I've seen and help wrench on many turbo cars and many of them are referenced off the intake plenum. Mine was referenced there as well, right beside the FPR reference. As SRT10 posted, the closer you are to the intake, the more accurate your actual boost pressure to the engine will be. I agree that spending that much on a turbo system should include a set of T bolts but even worm clamps should handle 8psi easily if the pipe ends are beaded. Sounds like the clamp may have been a bad one or was placed poorly. Sometimes, shit happens.

Good luck with the rest of journey. Sounds like you're going to have one helluva beast. I'd bet you could pump out close to 600whp, if not more, with a good tune in her. You might have your tuner call IPS to see if there's a trick to working with the injectors.

[CyberPredator]

Sorry to hear that man. I've been around a lot of turbo cars and eventhough t-clamps are the way to go I haven't had any issues with mine....yet. My tuner didn't say he had any issues with the injectors. All he said is that they are only at 44%, which is kinda cool. I hope you get everything settled soon and get back on the road.

[ipimpthisc]

Hi Cyber...the issue with the clamp slip can occur at any given time. when we went under the car to look we saw 2 other hoses that were slipped some. In time they too would blow off. I plan to push my beast to 9-10 psi. Also nyc streets are horrid, lots of nvh and potholes. TO BE SAFE ...and not over boost and kill your motor ...I would tell you to not chance a few bucks spent on the right clamps. A car was in the shop with a blown turbo unit just for that reason alone. Its very very scary if you ask me. The injector issue is still up in the air. But remember they had mine all confused from the beginning, and who knows ....I will keep all posted. Matter of fact i am about to call the tuners now!

[ipimpthisc]

Originally Posted by axis

I agree.

Typically, tuners like what they're use to. Doesn't necessarily mean the injectors are crap. There's always a pressure drop across the IC so referencing your boost there isn't a bad idea, other than I wouldn't like extra holes drilled in my IC. I've seen and help wrench on many turbo cars and many of them are referenced off the intake plenum. Mine was referenced there as well, right beside the FPR reference. As SRT10 posted, the closer you are to the intake, the more accurate your actual boost pressure to the engine will be. I agree that spending that much on a turbo system should include a set of T bolts but even worm clamps should handle 8psi easily if the pipe ends are beaded. Sounds like the clamp may have been a bad one or was placed poorly. Sometimes, shit happens.

Good luck with the rest of journey. Sounds like you're going to have one helluva beast. I'd bet you could pump out close to 600whp, if not more, with a good tune in her. You might have your tuner call IPS to see if there's a trick to working with the injectors.

I fully agree...there is bias regarding tuners, and what they choose to implement. I am no expert in turbo stuff but i can understand your point of boost accuracy from the furthest point in a setup...maybe i didnt quite understand what he meant....or whatever...but his point was about the waste gate opening a full blast and creating destructive boost. Thank you for your opinions and knowledge. I also agree that 8 psi shouldnt of blown the clamp off. It could of even been insufficiently tightened or been the fluke. But knowing about the vibrations and bumps i drive through i want the added security. The tech did note the the location under the car and lack of clearance was a factor. Again I will discuss this further with the mechanics and see what I learn I too hope this pans out well.

[ipimpthisc]

Originally Posted by SRT10KLLR

I agree with you on many points.

The worm gear clams should be swapped to T-Bolt clamps even if it is an upgrade for an additional amount. But, I will say they should not have come off with just 8psi. The Black Hemi in my sig has a rear mount(about 12t of piping) turbo and I never had any problems with the silicone couplers coming off even with the worm clamps. The IPS piping even has bead rolled piping for better grip that the Hemi does not have.

Also, as far as the injectors go that is an issue with your tuner not liking them. It does not necessarily mean that they are not good. I bought them separately from FIC because I wanted bigger(more flow) so I went with 95lb(108lb) ones.

As for the referencing of the boost I am not sure exactly what you mean. If it is what I am thinking then I prefer it by the intake manifold. On the Hemi the wastegate had a reference coming from the turbo. One drawback from having it that way was say you had a 8lb WG spring then because of the IC(intercooler) you would only be getting 6.5PSI. If you reference it from a vacuum source coming from the intake manifold(brake booster) then you will see the full 8PSI.

Getting a gain of 214rwhp from 8PSI is really good. That is 26.75rwhp per lb of boost.

You absolutely right. And this I have know for a while from ready turbo literature...but my tech mentioned that the full boost will kick in at a crazy number if a line disconnects past the reference point...which makes sense. In other words the turbo would try to compensate with a sudden waste gate opening at full and blast with so much boost that either the turbo or the motor will be wrecked. Let me know if you follow me. This does seem right..but again maybe i misunderstood or maybe I just dunno wth i am talkin about

[ipimpthisc]

ok folks just off the phone with the techs...the clamps on order the car seems to be doing good with the ips injectors so far....so this all mite pan out well..I will know by tomorrow in full detail...for now i will them work without being bothered...or i am gonna be in one of these

[Boost6924]

Your tuner should be able to tune with included injectors, unless one of them is just plain defective. Just be patient. No hose clamp issues here, but i'm looking in to this, when i put my new engine in this fall.

For my new engine, i just ordered injector dynamics ones though, since we have had great success with them with our normally aspirated drag cars. But i underline, it's not because my current ones don't work, it's because i need bigger ones anyway.

I'm sure your end result will be good, and you will be happy. Be patient with IPS customer service, it's not the fastest, but they will make things right for you, if something is wrong.

[carbon8]

heck if your going to change injectors just go with 92lb and switch to e85. Then you can run more boost.

[carbon8]

oh and the granatelli kit doesn't come with T-bolt clamps ether. I blew a hose off on the dyno too. You might talk to your shop about doing a boost leak test when its all hooked up if your worried about burning up a turbo.

[Boost6924]

Originally Posted by carbon8

heck if your going to change injectors just go with 92lb and switch to e85. Then you can run more boost.

I went with 1000cc's. They will support all i need (1000+RWHP) with pump gas and meth. And yes, i can tune it for E-85 as well

[carbon8]

cooooool