Potential gains once I tune? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

gjarzabek009 · 08-17-2011, 12:37 AM

What do you guys think my gains will be when I trifecta tune my car next week? Mods listed in my sig. Also you think the exhause sound will change once the numbers are adjusted?

Dcmaro28 · 08-17-2011, 12:44 AM

I would say anywhere from 12 - 17 rwhp, just my guess

gjarzabek009 · 08-17-2011, 01:07 AM

what about torque and the exhaust sound?

rtcat600man · 08-17-2011, 06:53 AM

The gains are not that much, but certainly will make sure everything is working to it's best capability.

The exhaust note should not change at all.

Be sure to ask for the Cam phase tune. That is worth some HP and Torque.

bmorecam · 08-17-2011, 09:11 AM

You will def feel the improvement. I dynoed 264 minus aftermarket intake with my manual. One thing I know is that the dynojet 248x I dynoed on read very low, although I didn have a chance to dyno my car while stock other camaros usually dyno in around 230-240 stock on 248x. Others who dynoed with long tube header and tune wih before/after show around 6hp peak gain but showed bigger off peak gain. Vince told me this was due to something else now being the bottleneck which some think it now has to do our awful intake side of things.

gjarzabek009 · 08-17-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rtcat600man

The gains are not that much, but certainly will make sure everything is working to it's best capability.

The exhaust note should not change at all.

Be sure to ask for the Cam phase tune. That is worth some HP and Torque.

I thought the cam phase tune was only for sound?

rtcat600man · 08-17-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by gjarzabek009

I thought the cam phase tune was only for sound?

No that is the CAM GHOST TUNE.

You want the CAM PHASE TUNE.

Big Difference.

One is sound the other is 13 RWHP

KMPrenger · 08-17-2011, 01:47 PM

Those with the Cam Phase tune (which I thought was now just a standard part of Vince's tune) seem to notice a decent amount of pick up in lower and mid RPMs.

With your setup, you may not notice a lot up top, but should pick up steam further down in the RPM range.

PoorMansCamaro · 08-17-2011, 02:20 PM

Yeah, trifectas base tune for the v6 includes the 13hp increase.

Blade · 08-17-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Yeah, trifectas base tune for the v6 includes the 13hp increase.

Yep.......now he has the cam phase tune as part of the base.

I personally gained on average 12 horses through the RPM gauge, almost 28 @5500 RPMs.

I also gained about .2 secs at the track........FWIW the cars putting down consistent 14.0s and 13.9s now.

Maurdib · 08-17-2011, 02:47 PM

Was the Vararam and Trifecta issue ever addressed?

KMPrenger · 08-17-2011, 03:35 PM

The only VR + Tune issue I'm aware of was with bmorecam's E85 tune...and he has had that fixed. I would venture to say that if you have the tune and switch to the VR from stock or otherwise you should datalog and have Vince check them anyways.

I'd do this with any intake.

Maurdib · 08-17-2011, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

The only VR + Tune issue I'm aware of was with bmorecam's E85 tune...and he has had that fixed. I would venture to say that if you have the tune and switch to the VR from stock or otherwise you should datalog and have Vince check them anyways.

I'd do this with any intake.

I just remember something about running super lean because of the additional air flow

bmorecam · 08-17-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

The only VR + Tune issue I'm aware of was with bmorecam's E85 tune...and he has had that fixed. I would venture to say that if you have the tune and switch to the VR from stock or otherwise you should datalog and have Vince check them anyways.

I'd do this with any intake.

I think my lean condition with vr was an isolated case due to e85 tune but once I fixed that I had a really good result from that. I checked my logs againt vr today and my AEM brute force is flowing more air causing even bigger leaner condition. I think the extra flow is coming from the direct contact of air that I have tweaked from my fog light hole. WOT got me at 17+ LTFT right now over vararam. Once I get a tune back from vince I think I am going to have a little gem on my hand

08-17-2011, 12:37 AM	#1
gjarzabek009 Drives: 1LT Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 954	Potential gains once I tune? What do you guys think my gains will be when I trifecta tune my car next week? Mods listed in my sig. Also you think the exhause sound will change once the numbers are adjusted? __________________ -21" GM wheels -3.73 gears -Injen PowerFlow CAI -OBX LT headers -Doug Thorley Catback exhaust -Magnaflow High Flow cats -Trifecta Tune -VMAX Ported TB -Maces 25mm Insulator -Ported Intake manifolds (soon)

08-17-2011, 01:07 AM	#3
gjarzabek009 Drives: 1LT Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 954	what about torque and the exhaust sound? __________________ -21" GM wheels -3.73 gears -Injen PowerFlow CAI -OBX LT headers -Doug Thorley Catback exhaust -Magnaflow High Flow cats -Trifecta Tune -VMAX Ported TB -Maces 25mm Insulator -Ported Intake manifolds (soon)

08-17-2011, 06:53 AM	#4
rtcat600man having FUN now 13.66@101 Drives: 2010 2LT IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 9,230 View My Garage	The gains are not that much, but certainly will make sure everything is working to it's best capability. The exhaust note should not change at all. Be sure to ask for the Cam phase tune. That is worth some HP and Torque. __________________ MY BUILD

08-17-2011, 01:47 PM	#8
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	Those with the Cam Phase tune (which I thought was now just a standard part of Vince's tune) seem to notice a decent amount of pick up in lower and mid RPMs. With your setup, you may not notice a lot up top, but should pick up steam further down in the RPM range. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

08-17-2011, 02:20 PM	#9
PoorMansCamaro Drives: Really Slow Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: PA Posts: 57,198	Yeah, trifectas base tune for the v6 includes the 13hp increase. __________________

08-17-2011, 12:44 AM	#2
Dcmaro28 Drives: 2011 LS CGM / '01 Trans am (ls6) Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Kansas city, MO Posts: 84 View My Garage	I would say anywhere from 12 - 17 rwhp, just my guess

08-17-2011, 09:11 AM	#5
bmorecam Account Suspended Drives: jealous vendors mad!! HAHA!! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CYBERGMONSTER@GMAIL.COM Posts: 3,658 View My Garage	You will def feel the improvement. I dynoed 264 minus aftermarket intake with my manual. One thing I know is that the dynojet 248x I dynoed on read very low, although I didn have a chance to dyno my car while stock other camaros usually dyno in around 230-240 stock on 248x. Others who dynoed with long tube header and tune wih before/after show around 6hp peak gain but showed bigger off peak gain. Vince told me this was due to something else now being the bottleneck which some think it now has to do our awful intake side of things.

08-17-2011, 02:47 PM	#11
Maurdib Drives: 2010 Black Camaro 2LT/RS Auto Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: San Fernando Valley Posts: 751 View My Garage	Was the Vararam and Trifecta issue ever addressed? __________________ BackInBlack Performance:Vararam cold air intake

08-17-2011, 03:35 PM	#12
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	The only VR + Tune issue I'm aware of was with bmorecam's E85 tune...and he has had that fixed. I would venture to say that if you have the tune and switch to the VR from stock or otherwise you should datalog and have Vince check them anyways. I'd do this with any intake. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

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