Camaro vs. Nothing

[AZ MSCL]

Silly question. If mom will buy a ZL1, she is foolish. Where I live, I see kids in high school driving new Mercedes, BMWs, Vettes, etc., because mom and dad are loaded. Kid wrecks car, kid gets a new one. Giving ANY kid a car with that kind of power is dumb, temptation to check out that power will eventually win. Then lack of driving skills results in tragedy. In this case, if you're not going to use that power, why not save mom some money and get a V6?

[Blue17CamaroZL1]

At 32, I may not have the life experience of some others, but I'm not about to insult someone for their lifestyle or whatever.

However, given that, regardless of resources, there is no way I can see giving a 17 yr old a brand new car:
1) Unless they have been driving illegally, they don't have the experience behind the wheel regardless of how mature they are as a person.
2) You don't give a 500+ HP car to a beginner driver regardless of it being new or used. This is a car we are talking about, not a toy. 3500+ lbs of metal and force. People die from these things because of mistakes and inexperience. Knowlegable drivers still die from uncontrollable situations.

To put this kind of car in the hands of a beginner could be a lethal decision. Not saying he will, but there is a reason teenager insurance is higher for a reason.

Everyone knows these cars have bad blind spots and hard to see visual spots. Putting those in the hands of a beginner could lead to a fatal situation as well.

My preference would be, if I was a parent, get the OP a starter car. It doesn't have to be a beater, it doesn't have to be something falling apart, but something to where he can learn and show that he can handle the road and all the situations that driving has to offer. THEN, once he has proven he can, then upgrade the car.

But I cannot see throwing a 17 yr old into a 500+ HP brand new car for any reason.

Just my .02

[aarpdlnkqnt]

Bloody bollocks! Foiled and fooled again! (Unlike what The Who sang about.) I must don the Grocery Sack of Shame for being lulled in by a troll and his ilk. Oh, the humanity of it all.

How can I ever show my face in public again, riding neath the hardtop of my GenV Camaro? How can I post upon this forum without the ridicule of my peers being heaped upon my shameful head? Oh, that I were as sharp and fast as those who are the Omniscient of Trollology.

Pray tell, thou that are of that stature, thou who art one of the Omniscient of Trollology, canst thou but offer unto us, who are not that savvy in your ways, a glimmer of your allknowing wisdom, so that we too may take advantage of said wisdom, and not fall prey again unto these trolls? Wilt thou but offer up a grain of your all encompassing knowledge to the least of us? We beseech thee, be generous to us.

[AZ MSCL]

Originally Posted by aarpdlnkqnt

Bloody bollocks! Foiled and fooled again! (Unlike what The Who sang about.) I must don the Grocery Sack of Shame for being lulled in by a troll and his ilk. Oh, the humanity of it all.

How can I ever show my face in public again, riding neath the hardtop of my GenV Camaro? How can I post upon this forum without the ridicule of my peers being heaped upon my shameful head? Oh, that I were as sharp and fast as those who are the Omniscient of Trollology.

Pray tell, thou that are of that stature, thou who art one of the Omniscient of Trollology, canst thou but offer unto us, who are not that savvy in your ways, a glimmer of your allknowing wisdom, so that we too may take advantage of said wisdom, and not fall prey again unto these trolls? Wilt thou but offer up a grain of your all encompassing knowledge to the least of us? We beseech thee, be generous to us.

Wow...

[camarovigoa]

This doesn't apply to everyone im 18 i got my 2010 camaro SS in september when i was 17 i supercharged it 4 months later i am always at the drag strip i never race on the street. Sooo when i was 17 i had a 700hp car and i didn't crash it or kill myself

[el ess A]

Originally Posted by camarovigoa

Sooo when i was 17 i had a 700hp car and i didn't crash it or kill myself

One of the few, the proud... oh, different commercial.

You are definitely in the minority. I remember growing up, all we could afford were muscle cars to drive to school (sounds weird now). Our school parking lot was way cooler than any you'll see out there today. Road Runners and other Mopars with 440 6-packs, LS6 Chevelles, my 442, and 67 SS Chevelles, GTOs, Mustangs, etc., were actually kind of NORMAL to see in the crowd I hung around with. The other crowds drove the 4-door Novas, Dodge Darts, and grocery getter cars. All the "normal" people called our ilk "motorheads".

People thought gas prices were high back in the 70s and dumped the gas hogs for cheap. We got them as 17 year olds. And people did some DUMB stuff with those cars. And they were nowhere near as safe as they are today. It's a wonder there weren't more fatalities. It's not just whether a car runs 14s, 13s, etc. The tires sucked, power was abundant, passengers ponied up a buck or so for gas (and ill-gotten beer if someone happened to have a few extra bucks) and cars would get squirrely on the streets without much prodding. I've seen many wrecks because people couldn't handle the car. More than one time I've come close to crashing my 442 because it got out from under me.

Today, with much more driving experience, I doubt I'd hand over keys to a high-horsepower car if I had a teenage kid. Not because I didn't want them to have some automotive fun. But because I actually cared about not hurrying them to make dumb choices. I think a 2LT would be the top model for my theoretical 17 yo to drive, regardless of their maturity level.

Life's about choices. Which makes you as a person, defined by those choices. Choose wisely.

[Mr.Maro23]

I say take advantage of your parents make them buy the zl1 if u deserve it like u say go for it. its my dream to have the zl1 or the z28 you only live once now drive safe and take good care of the car but personally i think your dad is gonna drive it more than you will lol

[camarovigoa]

ZL1 ain't got nothing on me lol I love my camaro my dad doesn't like my camaro he loves his vette he barley ever drives the camaro lol

[camarovigoa]

I'm also lucky enough to have a dad that trust me with this car my dad and I are always together and racing so when ever I feel a need for speed lol he takes me to the drag strip I could understand almost no parents would do what my dad did but my dad was a police officer for 27 years he has seen all the accidents he knows what time of day it Is but there's a strong level of trust that keeps me from doing anything foolish in the street

[oldlugs]

Originally Posted by camarovigoa

I'm also lucky enough to have a dad that trust me with this car my dad and I are always together and racing so when ever I feel a need for speed lol he takes me to the drag strip I could understand almost no parents would do what my dad did but my dad was a police officer for 27 years he has seen all the accidents he knows what time of day it Is but there's a strong level of trust that keeps me from doing anything foolish in the street

...but unfortunately, not lucky enough to find any punctuation keys on your keyboard. Who is to blame; you, or your parents?
Go back to school, and please keep your 700 HP Camaro, rubber-side down.

[a.morblu]

Originally Posted by DroptopZ

You don't want a ZL1, trust me.

The risk of teen pregnancy goes up sevenfold with that car. Do yourself a favor: buy a Civic, and then you won't have to worry about knocking some young girl up

Brilliant

[camarovigoa]

Originally Posted by oldlugs

...but unfortunately, not lucky enough to find any punctuation keys on your keyboard. Who is to blame; you, or your parents?
Go back to school, and please keep your 700 HP Camaro, rubber-side down.

Thank you for your kind words. your a gentleman and a scholar

[YOURWORSTNIGHTMARE]

I always get a kick out of how somebody will make up a question in order to get everyone going and it moves on to different tangents, which eventually has you guys ragging on one another

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by aarpdlnkqnt

Bloody bollocks! Foiled and fooled again! (Unlike what The Who sang about.) I must don the Grocery Sack of Shame for being lulled in by a troll and his ilk. Oh, the humanity of it all.

How can I ever show my face in public again, riding neath the hardtop of my GenV Camaro? How can I post upon this forum without the ridicule of my peers being heaped upon my shameful head? Oh, that I were as sharp and fast as those who are the Omniscient of Trollology.

Pray tell, thou that are of that stature, thou who art one of the Omniscient of Trollology, canst thou but offer unto us, who are not that savvy in your ways, a glimmer of your allknowing wisdom, so that we too may take advantage of said wisdom, and not fall prey again unto these trolls? Wilt thou but offer up a grain of your all encompassing knowledge to the least of us? We beseech thee, be generous to us.