Roots supercharger and meth??

[MRGOODWRENCH3]

Originally Posted by Silver2SSRS6spd

I'm going to be installing a Snow Performance Stage III kit soon, all of these comments scare me a bit. My number 1 reason for installing the meth kit is to cool down my IAT. I don't really care too much for more HP and hope that I can get some more pop on plain lower IAT and high octane created by using the meth. I'm going to try and use the 49\51 boost juice with my Maggie. Does anyone out there only use or turn on the meth when they want to drive the car hard or for racing conditions? What do you think of adding the kit and no tune to?

The Snow kits are easily adjusted. You can have it set to come on under a certain boost psi and then it will progressively increase. It's not just off or on. I run a dual nozzle set up on the systems that I install. There are different size nozzles so you can fine tune the amount of injection.
I would have the controller set to work anytime the engine is running. And yes you will get a bigger benefit with a tune.

[jrpxxii]

Originally Posted by MRGOODWRENCH3

The Snow kits are easily adjusted. You can have it set to come on under a certain boost psi and then it will progressively increase. It's not just off or on. I run a dual nozzle set up on the systems that I install. There are different size nozzles so you can fine tune the amount of injection.
I would have the controller set to work anytime the engine is running. And yes you will get a bigger benefit with a tune.

+1
I love being able to adjust the Snow controller.I also have the dual nozzle setup on mine as well. You can basically control anything you want with the Snow unit and it has fail safe features if your pump goes out or fluid level gets too low. Snow Performance is a proven product.

[nitto85]

Is there a Official word from Magnuson about the effects of Meth Injection on their blowers? I was thinking about picking up a meth system for added saftey, but my car is a daily driver and I don't want negative effects from long term use.

[Silver2SSRS6spd]

Originally Posted by mst504

Is there a Official word from Magnuson about the effects of Meth Injection on their blowers? I was thinking about picking up a meth system for added saftey, but my car is a daily driver and I don't want negative effects from long term use.

+1

[Jon@MagnaCharger]

Originally Posted by mst504

Is there a Official word from Magnuson about the effects of Meth Injection on their blowers? I was thinking about picking up a meth system for added saftey, but my car is a daily driver and I don't want negative effects from long term use.

To ensure the longevity of your supercharger and not void your warranty, we do not recommend spraying Methanol through the supercharger. The coating on the rotors was not designed to encounter any "fuel" and exposure to such can cause premature wear to the internal components.

[hypurone]

Originally Posted by mst504

Is there a Official word from Magnuson about the effects of Meth Injection on their blowers? I was thinking about picking up a meth system for added saftey, but my car is a daily driver and I don't want negative effects from long term use.

Plain old water will give you what you need, safety. It has a higher latent heat absorption level than meth, is non corrosive, removes any and all carbon it touches as it turns to steam and does not increase the cylinder temps/pressures as meth does (remember meth is a fuel)... Just sayin'

I have hit the "wet stuff" in every FI car I have owned. Aquamist makes great systems if you want an alternative... It does take proper tuning of the EGT temps to determine the proper amount of H2O to inject but there is a ton of info out there and the Aquamist nozzles are graduated and easy to change out as you dial things in...

[chevpwr]

I'm not sure what the difference between the Vette and the Camaro world are, but my 07 S/C Vette had a meth kit tuned for power and safety. We relocated the IAT sensor right in front of the TB and sprayed the meth before the sensor. If the meth did not work the IAT's would be higher and the computer would not give the car all the timing it would usually get with the lower IAT. I'm not sure what that number was but Dallas Performance had it figured out.

[jrpxxii]

Originally Posted by chevpwr

I'm not sure what the difference between the Vette and the Camaro world are, but my 07 S/C Vette had a meth kit tuned for power and safety. We relocated the IAT sensor right in front of the TB and sprayed the meth before the sensor. If the meth did not work the IAT's would be higher and the computer would not give the car all the timing it would usually get with the lower IAT. I'm not sure what that number was but Dallas Performance had it figured out.

It doesnt matter what vehicle it is on as these systems are designed to do the same function. It is up to you or your tuner to decide what you want to do with it as far as performance and cooling. Its a very simple system and a good tuner can give you the benefits of power and cooling.

[HufferSS]

Originally Posted by Silver2SSRS6spd

What's Whipple's stance on meth injection? Are the Maggies rebuildable or paper weights if the interiors get wasted by meth?

According to Vengeance...Whipple has no issues with Meth on their setups. I really doubt anyone would have an issue with Meth on a Maggie....it sounds like the typical CYA type disclaimer rather than anything they've tested.

[jrpxxii]

Originally Posted by Silver2SSRS6spd

What's Whipple's stance on meth injection? Are the Maggies rebuildable or paper weights if the interiors get wasted by meth?

They can all be sprayed but I am guessing this is just another way for companies to get out of a warranty issue. Im guessing no one will ever see the effects of spraying meth in their blowers unless they are keeping them for a lifetime. Its not like if you spray meth into a blower its going to just eat the rotors away immedately. It would be nice for the companies to make their rotors with a coating so they could actually say you can spray meth as this would eliminate all the questions and fears and more sales I would think.

[chevpwr]

Originally Posted by jrpxxii

It doesnt matter what vehicle it is on as these systems are designed to do the same function. It is up to you or your tuner to decide what you want to do with it as far as performance and cooling. Its a very simple system and a good tuner can give you the benefits of power and cooling.

That is what I'm saying! Not sure why everyone says you can't get both.
I made 795rwhp with a 9:1 331ci motor (Mustang) with a YSI and 25lbs of boost on 91 octane and a Snows water/meth kit.
My Vette made 565rwhp (A6 car) with a stock LS2 Vortech V2 at 11lbs, 91 octane and a AIS Meth kit with 100% meth.

[jrpxxii]

Originally Posted by chevpwr

That is what I'm saying! Not sure why everyone says you can't get both.
I made 795rwhp with a 9:1 331ci motor (Mustang) with a YSI and 25lbs of boost on 91 octane and a Snows water/meth kit.

I guess the confusion is that if your car is tuned to be reliable on the meth and something goes wrong with the meth system or you run dry, your motor goes pop. If you tune your car to benefit from the meth for cooling while getting a little extra power than it is not completely dependent on the meth for the octane. I can turn my system on or off and it doesnt matter but it is much safer to have it on while in boost for the motor. I could get alot more power if I really tweaked the tune for the meth but this just isnt the smart way to run meth UNLESS you are strictly running competetively and are tuning for MAX performance.

[chevpwr]

Originally Posted by jrpxxii

I guess the confusion is that if your car is tuned to be reliable on the meth and something goes wrong with the meth system or you run dry, your motor goes pop. If you tune your car to benefit from the meth for cooling while getting a little extra power than it is not completely dependent on the meth for the octane. I can turn my system on or off and it doesnt matter but it is much safer to have it on while in boost for the motor. I could get alot more power if I really tweaked the tune for the meth but this just isnt the smart way to run meth UNLESS you are strictly running competetively and are tuning for MAX performance.

On my Vette if the pump quit, or it ran out of meth in the tank, the IAT's would be higher so the tune would not give it all the timing (because of the higher IAT's).... So you can tune it for the meth to make max power, and if it fails for some reason the motor will be fine. Thats how Dallas Performance, ECS, and and everyone else does it that I know of.

[jrpxxii]

Originally Posted by chevpwr

On my Vette if the pump quit, or it ran out of meth in the tank, the IAT's would be higher so the tune would not give it all the timing (because of the higher IAT's).... So you can tune it for the meth to make max power, and if it fails for some reason the motor will be fine. Thats how Dallas Performance, ECS, and and everyone else does it that I know of.

I guess I just dont understand how your tune works. So if your tank goes dry and your tuned for max peak power from meth how does your tune know your tank is dry?