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Nessal · 10-11-2011, 02:51 PM

This guy in a 135i was trying to entice me into a race today but I didn't take the bait. But It does leaves me wondering how I would do. I know that my stock SS can probably easily take a stock 135i but this guy didn't sound stock. He definitely had exhaust work done but I'm not sure how much more. The car does look completely stock except for the sound. How do I stand in this fight?

CamaroFreako · 10-11-2011, 03:01 PM

SS should win.

n2oSS · 10-11-2011, 03:02 PM

really......

freemaSSon · 10-11-2011, 03:03 PM

The 335i and the 135i can easily achieve 400+ TQ at the wheels and run 7's in the 1/8th mile with a simple ECM swap.

If he was tryin to goad you into a race then you can rest assured he is not only crazy enough to street race, he is as well crazy enough to pay the $1,300 for the upgraded ECM from Germany. With supporting mods on top of an ECM swap should see the range of 450 TQ to the wheels. These little Germany turbo cars are quite nasty in the hands of the educated and experienced car pilot.

IMHO, he would have spanked you quite well.

PS - Glad you stuck to your principles of discipline and didn't participate in street racing. Many would have taken the risk.

EDIT: The advantage in the TQ race is better for the V8 the slower the dual begins. ie from a dig is the worst place for the small c.i. turbo car. as it is spooled up and at peak rpm and tq then the advantage is going to the turbo.

Nessal · 10-11-2011, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemaSSon

The 335i and the 135i can easily achieve 400+ TQ at the wheels and run 7's in the 1/8th mile with a simple ECM swap.

If he was tryin to goad you into a race then you can rest assured he is not only crazy enough to street race, he is as well crazy enough to pay the $1,300 for the upgraded ECM from Germany. With supporting mods on top of an ECM swap should see the range of 450 TQ to the wheels. These little Germany turbo cars are quite nasty in the hands of the educated and experienced car pilot.

IMHO, he would have spanked you quite well.

PS - Glad you stuck to your principles of discipline and didn't participate in street racing. Many would have taken the risk.

EDIT: The advantage in the TQ race is better for the V8 the slower the dual begins. ie from a dig is the worst place for the small c.i. turbo car. as it is spooled up and at peak rpm and tq then the advantage is going to the turbo.

I'll admit, I really wanted to. But really had nothing to prove and risk getting my car impounded and fined...wasn't worth it. I just did some research and the 135 gets 300lb/ft @1200rpm to the crank. WOW...didn't know they were that peppy.

n2oSS · 10-11-2011, 03:30 PM

you didn't street race which we are all well trained in saying here " good job!" but admit it you feared a loss and thats why ya didnt.

NinoSS · 10-11-2011, 03:54 PM

I had a 6spd 135i with just a piggy back (JB3) for my ECU and the car went 12.9 @ 109. I only ran map 5 of 8 and now they have tunes that hold boost better (JB4) for the M6 cars, the autos hold boost better due to the quick shift.

With a few more simple mods (FMIC, DP's, aggressive map and meth), they can go mid 12's with little trouble.

All said I really didn't want to go this route with my 135i so I switched back to the SS. My SS goes pretty good now as well (see mods in sig)...

freemaSSon · 10-11-2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinoSS

I had a 6spd 135i with just a piggy back (JB3) for my ECU and the car went 12.9 @ 109. I only ran map 5 of 8 and now they have tunes that hold boost better (JB4) for the M6 cars, the autos hold boost better due to the quick shift.

With a few more simple mods (FMIC, DP's, aggressive map and meth), they can go mid 12's with little trouble.

All said I really didn't want to go this route with my 135i so I switched back to the SS. My SS goes pretty good now as well (see mods in sig)...

I'm doing all I can to talk my daughter into the 135i when the used market is plentiful and i can steal a nice babied car. Then turn up the juice as she shows discipline and the ability to handle the car at the track.

Killer car and I WANNA DRIVE IT TOO!

It's that or a Sky Redline and the 2 seater is just no good when you wanna have friends ride along.

Good2go · 10-12-2011, 06:28 PM

A moddded 135i walked my LS3 when it was stock. Actually, he got on it before me and I slowed his pull, but couldn't stop it, so he continued walking me.

Nessal · 10-13-2011, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemaSSon

I'm doing all I can to talk my daughter into the 135i when the used market is plentiful and i can steal a nice babied car. Then turn up the juice as she shows discipline and the ability to handle the car at the track.

Killer car and I WANNA DRIVE IT TOO!

It's that or a Sky Redline and the 2 seater is just no good when you wanna have friends ride along.

My fiance has been bugging me about a 135 for a few weeks now but I never really looked into it. I'm not sure how much they go for on the used market but they seem to go for about 40k before TTL if bought brand new. Seems kind of pricey.

Grabber · 10-13-2011, 11:20 AM

I remember seeing a 135I on SVTP that had an intake, tune and exhaust with a tire running 11.70's @ 115-116. Something in that area.

I have no doubt an SS would pull pretty decently on a Stock 135I.

familycaronROIDS! · 10-13-2011, 11:48 AM

If your bone stock and the 135i didnt sound stock most likely he wasn't. I would have to give it to the 135i. Most people (key word Most not all) have an idea what their car is competitive against.

NinoSS · 10-13-2011, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freemaSSon

I'm doing all I can to talk my daughter into the 135i when the used market is plentiful and i can steal a nice babied car. Then turn up the juice as she shows discipline and the ability to handle the car at the track.

Killer car and I WANNA DRIVE IT TOO!

It's that or a Sky Redline and the 2 seater is just no good when you wanna have friends ride along.

Make sure you get an N54... The only real issue with all N54 BMW's is the HPFP. This is a know problem that BMW stepped up to the plate and warranty it for 120K miles. This only applies to stock cars though...

They really are sweet little cars... This was my little nasty "1"

06blownSS · 10-13-2011, 12:47 PM

I have a couple of videos on youtube of me racing my cousin's 135i, both 6spd manuals. My mods are listed below, he has the JB3 running map 5 or 6 something like that... well the races were very close we both had hard times hooking up off launch but he beat me 3 out of 5 races. Best times of the day were 13.2 @ 113mph for me, 13.0 @ 110mph for him. Definately a sleeper. Check out the vids on youtube I would link them here but my work PC doesn't allow youtube. Camaro SS vs 135i.

10-11-2011, 02:51 PM	#1
Nessal Drives: Exige, Miata, Ghia Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: CA, Bay Area Posts: 2,309	135i wanted to race me today... This guy in a 135i was trying to entice me into a race today but I didn't take the bait. But It does leaves me wondering how I would do. I know that my stock SS can probably easily take a stock 135i but this guy didn't sound stock. He definitely had exhaust work done but I'm not sure how much more. The car does look completely stock except for the sound. How do I stand in this fight?

10-11-2011, 03:02 PM	#3
n2oSS Drives: 2010 SS2 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 434 View My Garage	really...... __________________ Mods: Dynatech Headers, High flow cats, MSD 8.5 wires, magnaflow bullits, Halltech intake, SCT tuner, maggie tvs 2300, Jannetty Tune, BMR driveshaft safety loop, Pfadt drop springs, Pfadt rear trailing arms, Pfadt rear tie rod, ACT Twin Disc Clutch, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft. Appearance Mods: AAC Concept Sidemarkers, P13W Plasma LED Bulbs, Iforged Classics 20". Next Mods: Cam and Fuel System.

10-11-2011, 03:03 PM	#4
freemaSSon Pat @ ADM PERFORMANCE Drives: CGM SS/RS M6 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Prosper, TX Posts: 506	The 335i and the 135i can easily achieve 400+ TQ at the wheels and run 7's in the 1/8th mile with a simple ECM swap. If he was tryin to goad you into a race then you can rest assured he is not only crazy enough to street race, he is as well crazy enough to pay the $1,300 for the upgraded ECM from Germany. With supporting mods on top of an ECM swap should see the range of 450 TQ to the wheels. These little Germany turbo cars are quite nasty in the hands of the educated and experienced car pilot. IMHO, he would have spanked you quite well. PS - Glad you stuck to your principles of discipline and didn't participate in street racing. Many would have taken the risk. EDIT: The advantage in the TQ race is better for the V8 the slower the dual begins. ie from a dig is the worst place for the small c.i. turbo car. as it is spooled up and at peak rpm and tq then the advantage is going to the turbo. __________________ "old age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition" author unknown "There are two types of racers: cheaters...and losers." Smokey Yunick

10-11-2011, 03:30 PM	#6
n2oSS Drives: 2010 SS2 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 434 View My Garage	you didn't street race which we are all well trained in saying here " good job!" but admit it you feared a loss and thats why ya didnt. __________________ Mods: Dynatech Headers, High flow cats, MSD 8.5 wires, magnaflow bullits, Halltech intake, SCT tuner, maggie tvs 2300, Jannetty Tune, BMR driveshaft safety loop, Pfadt drop springs, Pfadt rear trailing arms, Pfadt rear tie rod, ACT Twin Disc Clutch, DSS Aluminum Driveshaft. Appearance Mods: AAC Concept Sidemarkers, P13W Plasma LED Bulbs, Iforged Classics 20". Next Mods: Cam and Fuel System.

10-11-2011, 03:54 PM	#7
NinoSS Drives: 2SS/RS CGM LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,623	I had a 6spd 135i with just a piggy back (JB3) for my ECU and the car went 12.9 @ 109. I only ran map 5 of 8 and now they have tunes that hold boost better (JB4) for the M6 cars, the autos hold boost better due to the quick shift. With a few more simple mods (FMIC, DP's, aggressive map and meth), they can go mid 12's with little trouble. All said I really didn't want to go this route with my 135i so I switched back to the SS. My SS goes pretty good now as well (see mods in sig)... __________________ Current - 2018 NGM 1LE (LT4 conversion coming soon) SOLD 2010 LS3 / Vengeance stage I cam / CAI intake w/ADM race scoop / Dynatech LT's / Eaton Posi LPE-JRE 3.91's / L99 Corsa / ZL1 wheels / NT05 275/315

10-11-2011, 03:01 PM	#2
CamaroFreako KMK Drives: Slow V6 Camaro Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: kuwait Posts: 497	SS should win.

10-12-2011, 06:28 PM	#9
Good2go Team Chevrolet Drives: 2007 Z06 and 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio Posts: 441 View My Garage	A moddded 135i walked my LS3 when it was stock. Actually, he got on it before me and I slowed his pull, but couldn't stop it, so he continued walking me. __________________ Forgeline GA3's 9.5/11 with NT-05 Nitto's, Pedders Sportsryder Supercar Coilovers, MGW Shifter, LPE GT1-1 Cam, AR 1 7/8" LT's, Halltech CAI, SW Retro Chambered Cat-Back, Installed and tuned by Corey @ Henderson Performance Technology.

10-13-2011, 11:20 AM	#11
Grabber Just a car guy Drives: 2016 Durango R/T AWD Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 808	I remember seeing a 135I on SVTP that had an intake, tune and exhaust with a tire running 11.70's @ 115-116. Something in that area. I have no doubt an SS would pull pretty decently on a Stock 135I.

10-13-2011, 11:48 AM	#12
familycaronROIDS! CMS built Drives: 13 5.0 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 299	If your bone stock and the 135i didnt sound stock most likely he wasn't. I would have to give it to the 135i. Most people (key word Most not all) have an idea what their car is competitive against. __________________ wrenched & tuned by Cunningham Motorsports

10-13-2011, 12:47 PM	#14
06blownSS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montreal!! Posts: 754	I have a couple of videos on youtube of me racing my cousin's 135i, both 6spd manuals. My mods are listed below, he has the JB3 running map 5 or 6 something like that... well the races were very close we both had hard times hooking up off launch but he beat me 3 out of 5 races. Best times of the day were 13.2 @ 113mph for me, 13.0 @ 110mph for him. Definately a sleeper. Check out the vids on youtube I would link them here but my work PC doesn't allow youtube. Camaro SS vs 135i. __________________ Black on Black on Black 2010 Camaro 2SS LS3;K&N intake, Dynatech 1 7/8 catted LTs, Borla S Cat Back, Eibach prokit, Pfadt rear trailing arms, ZL-1 driveline, BTR Stage III Cam, Tuned by Performance Redline 444.1whp & 442.9 ft-lb

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