What feature do you wish were on the Camaro but isn't?

[Kooter81]

If any of you guys have used the $2500 GM Nav system, you know it is cool but doesn't have the best navigation system unless you are in a big city. Get in a rural area and it won't work anywhere off of the main highway. You are way better off with a Nuvi or Tom Tom. The CTS Nav is really cool but it just would make the car way too expensive!!

GM does a back up camera in the rear view mirror that would be easy to do...doesn't require the Nav screen.

Has anyone ever experienced the Intellibeam Headlamps like they put in the Cadillacs? That is by far the coolest feature I've ever used. No more fumbling to find the dimmer every time a car comes the other way. Just set it and forget it!!! For a "Drivers" car like the Camaro this would be a great feature. No taking your hands off the steering wheel at night.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Kooter81

What? Jetta?? Prius??? For Real???? Buy something American for once!!

His point is that imports have features that American cars don't. At the prices GM is asking for the Camaro, even with the fantastic performance we are getting, they still need to make more features standard without reducing quality, performance, or increasing price.

Many people buy based on percieved value, not whether something is made in America, like it or not.

For GM to make the turnaround they need to, it's going to be based less on how many plants they close, how many people they lay off, and how many models they cut out of production and more with what they do to add value, quality, and innovation to what they will still produce that quite honestly the Japs and Germans have been kicking our butt in for 20+ years.

Don't tell me for the prices GM is asking for the Camaro, without sacrificing on the quality or performance, that they couldn't have added more features that are standard in cars costing thousands less that aren't even considered performance cars.

Scott and I have had this discussion before, and I do not belive some of the little features that people are more accustom to with imports could not have been engineered into the Camaro without sacrificing the already great quality, performance, or increasing the price.

[Silver Streak]

Originally Posted by fastball

His point is that imports have features that American cars don't. At the prices GM is asking for the Camaro, even with the fantastic performance we are getting, they still need to make more features standard without reducing quality, performance, or increasing price.

Many people buy based on percieved value, not whether something is made in America, like it or not.

For GM to make the turnaround they need to, it's going to be based less on how many plants they close, how many people they lay off, and how many models they cut out of production and more with what they do to add value, quality, and innovation to what they will still produce that quite honestly the Japs and Germans have been kicking our butt in for 20+ years.

Don't tell me for the prices GM is asking for the Camaro, without sacrificing on the quality or performance, that they couldn't have added more features that are standard in cars costing thousands less that aren't even considered performance cars.

Scott and I have had this discussion before, and I do not belive some of the little features that people are more accustom to with imports could not have been engineered into the Camaro without sacrificing the already great quality, performance, or increasing the price.

I disagree with this. Performance cost $!! Adding more standards and features that it already has and keeping the same price, how does that work. I've owned an Evo and let me tell ya, there were no luxuries to it. The dollar went to performance. The package the Camaro offers is well worth the dollar. Great performance and a quality interior with some nice features. Yes there are things that could come standard that alot of cars have, but this car is the best bang for the $ out there IMO. How can you add to that without raising the price? I think GM has done a wonderful job with this car, and yes there are things that can and probably will improve with it, but a damn good start IMHO!

[Kooter81]

Originally Posted by fastball

His point is that imports have features that American cars don't. At the prices GM is asking for the Camaro, even with the fantastic performance we are getting, they still need to make more features standard without reducing quality, performance, or increasing price.

Many people buy based on percieved value, not whether something is made in America, like it or not.

For GM to make the turnaround they need to, it's going to be based less on how many plants they close, how many people they lay off, and how many models they cut out of production and more with what they do to add value, quality, and innovation to what they will still produce that quite honestly the Japs and Germans have been kicking our butt in for 20+ years.

Don't tell me for the prices GM is asking for the Camaro, without sacrificing on the quality or performance, that they couldn't have added more features that are standard in cars costing thousands less that aren't even considered performance cars.

Scott and I have had this discussion before, and I do not belive some of the little features that people are more accustom to with imports could not have been engineered into the Camaro without sacrificing the already great quality, performance, or increasing the price.

"fastball", you make a good point, but you need to look at the current reality. The "Japs and Germans" have fallen behind. Our quality and features are just as good if not better. Buick is the #1 quality brand. (Along with low volume Jag) GM offers more standard features in the Camaro than any competitor.

Most people are mis-informed on what they "percieve' quality and features to be. Do your research and don't believe what you read. Go to the dealers and look at the cars and drive them.

GM's issues have nothing to do with quality or features or the cars they are building. It has to do with legacy costs and the upheaval in the financial markets. If more so called "Americans" would take the time to look at what we have to offer, they would buy American cars. They just go out and buy a Prius because Consumer Reports says they should. Did you know if you drive mostly highway miles and about 10,000 miles a year and buy a Prius versus a new Cobalt LT that gets 37 mpg, it will take you 7 years to make up the money you spent in fuel savings? Did you know that Toyota and Honda don't offer Roadside Assistance with their warranty? What kind of a great feature is that?? Why don't they offer that?? Do you think it's because they would have to price their cars higher to offer that??? I kinda think so!

And then what do they do with the huge battery packs in the Prius when you junk it?? Isn't it kind of a "ecological nightmare" to think of where all those Prius batteries will be going when they wear out?? I mean they are only full of lead and mercury. That's no big deal huh?

Everybody drives what they drive because they like it and they can afford it. Don't assume that you know what other people like or want. I don't see Volkswagon having 14,000 presold orders on their latest car!!!

[DGthe3]

What would I like for the Camaro to have?

NAV
HUD (now, not later)
Z28
True hard top
Gas cap on top of the fender
Functional front scoop
Functional brake vents

Not because I want any of this, but because it would have eliminated hours and hours of explaining why the Camaro doesn't have them.

[Cyberfan]

Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

Leather seats in the 1SS

But then that would cost GM money because a lot of people wouldn't fork out the extra $ for the 2SS. I want leather and may go 2SS for that alone. I can live without the rest of the 2SS package.

But what I have on my Firebird now that I REALLY wish the Camaro had, and that can't be added aftermarket is a

HATCHBACK!

I don't have a truck, but I can put down the rear seat in the Firehawk, open the hatchback and haul most anything. And the opening for the Camaro trunk is pretty narrow.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Kooter81

"fastball", you make a good point, but you need to look at the current reality. The "Japs and Germans" have fallen behind. Our quality and features are just as good if not better. Buick is the #1 quality brand. (Along with low volume Jag) GM offers more standard features in the Camaro than any competitor.

Most people are mis-informed on what they "percieve' quality and features to be. Do your research and don't believe what you read. Go to the dealers and look at the cars and drive them.

GM's issues have nothing to do with quality or features or the cars they are building. It has to do with legacy costs and the upheaval in the financial markets. If more so called "Americans" would take the time to look at what we have to offer, they would buy American cars. They just go out and buy a Prius because Consumer Reports says they should. Did you know if you drive mostly highway miles and about 10,000 miles a year and buy a Prius versus a new Cobalt LT that gets 37 mpg, it will take you 7 years to make up the money you spent in fuel savings? Did you know that Toyota and Honda don't offer Roadside Assistance with their warranty? What kind of a great feature is that?? Why don't they offer that?? Do you think it's because they would have to price their cars higher to offer that??? I kinda think so!

And then what do they do with the huge battery packs in the Prius when you junk it?? Isn't it kind of a "ecological nightmare" to think of where all those Prius batteries will be going when they wear out?? I mean they are only full of lead and mercury. That's no big deal huh?

Everybody drives what they drive because they like it and they can afford it. Don't assume that you know what other people like or want. I don't see Volkswagon having 14,000 presold orders on their latest car!!!

That's a great sales pitch and all, but the fact remains that GM's perception nation wide is not up to par with what it should be. And those 14,000 pre-orders don't amount to a hill of beans compared to the debt GM is in right now. It's one car - yes, it's great news..... for that one car.....

Now, go out and sell 475,000 Malibus every year, and get people to trade in their Accords and Camrys for them. Then you're talking.

But untill then, the Camaro is great but it's not helping the overall picture.

[Ant]

Navigation would've been nice.

[phatman]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

What would I like for the Camaro to have?

NAV
HUD (now, not later)
Z28
True hard top
Gas cap on top of the fender
Functional front scoop
Functional brake vents

Not because I want any of this, but because it would have eliminated hours and hours of explaining why the Camaro doesn't have them.

Well the good thing is - GM is a consumer driven company. It has to provide the ppl what they want. Just ask their marketing ppl, the PR guys, sales staff. Sooner or later they with bring out models that will address each niche in the market.

I personally wish I had bought that IROC back in the '80s, but little things like mortgage, wife, kids seemed to be more important at the time...

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by phatman

I personally wish I had bought that IROC back in the '80s, but little things like mortgage, wife, kids seemed to be more important at the time...

little did you know.... as long as you learn from your mistakes.

[cam2fst4u]

oh yea how could i forget this option ....... My butt in the drivers seat!

[tremiles]

3400lb curb weight on the ls/t, 3500 on the ss.

[Bentley78]

Get rid of 1SS 2SS and just have SS, add whatever option you want.

HUD
Color LCD Vehicle command center for nav radio internet whatever..
cooled leather seats
Bose package instead of BA

Not to much stuff, this isnt a luxury car....its Muscle.

[MikeT]

I'd like to see something like the "Blind Spot Information System (BLISTM) with Cross Traffic Alert" that Ford is putting in the 2010 Fusion.


Let's face it. With the Camaro's c-pillars, blind spots are going to be a problem. Why not remedy that electronically?