Thus spake Zarathustra. A question of philosophy.

[Padre]

Originally Posted by NYJets77

Oh I have your number alright - your list of "philosophers".

I'd be willing to bet your college age, wear your Che Guevera tshirt as much as possible, and rail against the "inequities" and "robber barons", and other such nonsense. I'm sure you've never considered that the "1%" got there through hard work. No, its all about secret societies and taking advantage of the poor.

Hehehe.

Padre

[Berean]

IBTL

[Ruin]

Originally Posted by NYJets77

I'm sure you've never considered that the "1%" got there through hard work. No, its all about secret societies and taking advantage of the poor.

The numbers man... they don't lie.

Please note the sources on those stats too.



@Taintedveins, were/are you a Poli Sci major? It's like you rattled off a list of readings from the past two years for me haha.

[brandotron]

Originally Posted by NYJets77

Oh I have your number alright - your list of "philosophers".

I'd be willing to bet your college age, wear your Che Guevera tshirt as much as possible, and rail against the "inequities" and "robber barons", and other such nonsense. I'm sure you've never considered that the "1%" got there through hard work. No, its all about secret societies and taking advantage of the poor.

Very few of the current 1% got there through hard work. It's almost impossible with today's plutocracy, and most of them come from old money.

[Berean]

Originally Posted by brandotron

Very few of the current 1% got there through hard work. It's almost impossible with today's plutocracy, and most of them come from old money.

I agree with that statement, but there's a distinction to be made.

There are the top 1% people who have wealth, which includes your point above.

And then there are the top 1% of income earners, which is completely different, most of whom are no where near the top 1% of the wealthy.

People confuse the two and politicians cloud the issue on purpose.

Most of the anger is toward the 1% of the wealthy, but since we don't tax wealth (except the death tax) in this country, politicians stoke the anger toward the top 1% of income earners, who they can tax.

Big difference. Unfortunately, most people can't, or don't want, to be bothered with understanding that difference.

Taxing a guy who makes a million dollars a year running a small business that reinvests his money in that business, will absolutely kill jobs, while Warren Buffet only has to pay a larger percentage of the 100k he pays himself each year as a salary, while he sits on the rest of his pile of money tax free.

[brandotron]

Originally Posted by Berean

I agree with that statement, but there's a distinction to be made.

There are the top 1% people who have wealth, which includes your point above.

And then there are the top 1% of income earners, which is completely different, most of whom are no where near the top 1% of the wealthy.

People confuse the two and politicians cloud the issue on purpose.

Most of the anger is toward the 1% of the wealthy, but since we don't tax wealth (except the death tax) in this country, politicians stoke the anger toward the top 1% of income earners, who they can tax.

Big difference. Unfortunately, most people can't, or don't want, to be bothered with understanding that difference.

Taxing a guy who makes a million dollars a year running a small business that reinvests his money in that business, will absolutely kill jobs, while Warren Buffet only has to pay a larger percentage of the 100k he pays himself each year as a salary, while he sits on the rest of his pile of money tax free.

Very good point

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Berean

I agree with that statement, but there's a distinction to be made.

There are the top 1% people who have wealth, which includes your point above.

And then there are the top 1% of income earners, which is completely different, most of whom are no where near the top 1% of the wealthy.

People confuse the two and politicians cloud the issue on purpose.

Most of the anger is toward the 1% of the wealthy, but since we don't tax wealth (except the death tax) in this country, politicians stoke the anger toward the top 1% of income earners, who they can tax.

Big difference. Unfortunately, most people can't, or don't want, to be bothered with understanding that difference.

Taxing a guy who makes a million dollars a year running a small business that reinvests his money in that business, will absolutely kill jobs, while Warren Buffet only has to pay a larger percentage of the 100k he pays himself each year as a salary, while he sits on the rest of his pile of money tax free.

Nicely said...

you just saved this thread.

for now......

[Ivas]

Originally Posted by NYJets77

Oh I have your number alright - your list of "philosophers".

I'd be willing to bet your college age, wear your Che Guevera tshirt as much as possible, and rail against the "inequities" and "robber barons", and other such nonsense. I'm sure you've never considered that the "1%" got there through hard work. No, its all about secret societies and taking advantage of the poor.

Sonny, you couldn't be more wrong. I am fifty-six years old and have taught public high school for twenty-eight years. Plus I'm charming, erudite, speak three languages daily, have a B.A. from Berkeley in 1976, and two Diplômes supérieurs from la Sorbonne in Paris (all on scholarship, of course) am active in the teachers union, et cetera et cetera. Oh yeah, did I forget to mention that I'm humble?

[Ivas]

What, no riposte?

[Berean]

Originally Posted by Ivas

What, no riposte?

Wasn't he right about everything except your age?

[Ivas]

:l aughabove:

[Taintedveins]

Originally Posted by Ruin

The numbers man... they don't lie.

Please note the sources on those stats too.



@Taintedveins, were/are you a Poli Sci major? It's like you rattled off a list of readings from the past two years for me haha.

Haven't decided on my major yet, I just have an odd interest in philosophy. I did read about my list when I was in high school. Since then I have been itching to have a class where I can discuss and read about them again. Poli Sci may be in my future though

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by Ivas

For the readers amongst us, which philosopher or philosophers do you most admire and/or find their philosophy closest to your own? Or perhaps, which has influenced your life in a meaningful way?

Jimmy Buffett

[Ivas]

[QUOTE=ShnOmac;3890629]Jimmy Buffett


One man's meat is another man's poison. Yet if we are looking at pop stars for philosophy, a case could definitely be made for Robert Zimmerman, otherwise known as Bob Dylan. What chu' think?