2012 Camaro ZL1 at Jay Leno's Garage Video - Page 7 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

kudzu74 · 10-18-2011, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 68vert

I have to disagree. We know GM's profit margin is higher on the SS models over the V6. Why? Because the majority of the Camaro is the same. The difference is the SS has 2 more cylinders, and a beefier drive train and suspension. Remember GM rolls a Camaro out the door for sale starting at 23K. You think GM's cost is way higher making a A-arm for a V8 than a V6? Probably very little. The technology in the ZL1 was borrowed from other GM cars already on the road...drive train from Cadillac and suspension tech from the Vette. Obviously things were tweaked and tuned specifically for the ZL1, but its not like it has the newest gen tech. But I am fine with that. I expect the Cadillac's and Corvette's to have the newest and hottest. That is part of the price tag. I bet the ZL1 could start at $51-52k, and GM could still make a great margin on it.

I'm not trying to knock what GM is done at all...but this close to Christmas, everyone is getting quite giddy it seems. I will be in line for a ZL1 if the price is what I consider reasonable.

EXACTLY...could not have stated it better myself!

kudzu74 · 10-18-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by stlrammer

Loved the Leno ZL1 clip. Good to see an effective ZL1 burnout (launch control off). I'm with Fishersmoke's estimate of $60K base price per copy. I still like my 1SS at half the price. For me the SS hits the sweetspot of performance and value. ZL1 is an amazing big brother to the SS for sure. So when will we see the Z28 and what will be the price point? Anyone want to take a guess at the Z28 base price?

I agree...awesome on the

, and I think the president didn't have a choice but to

when Jay did that one on camera...couldn't ask for better PR...its already shared on my FB. As for the guessing on the Z28...perhaps another thread to start on that one but I would put it right around a base price of 42k before any options, gas guzzler tax, auto, etc. I posted that on another thread somewhere about perhaps a limited run of Z28 with a LS7 before the platform change in 2015. This way a new platform for the camaro and a new engine we have yet to see for the camaro overall. Would be nice wouldn't it!

ken53007 · 10-18-2011, 09:00 AM

thats a cool video good job jay

OldScoolCamaro · 10-18-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kudzu74

. As for the guessing on the Z28...perhaps another thread to start on that one but I would put it right around a base price of 42k before any options, gas guzzler tax, auto, etc. I posted that on another thread somewhere about perhaps a limited run of Z28 with a LS7 before the platform change in 2015. This way a new platform for the camaro and a new engine we have yet to see for the camaro overall. Would be nice wouldn't it!

The Z28 thought has already been well discussed and has it's own forum.....
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=136

Nachos!! · 10-18-2011, 01:57 PM

Did you read any of the coments on jays website? Some people actually think the car is going to have a checkered paint job.

91Z28350 · 10-18-2011, 02:02 PM

Never underestimate the power of stupid!

kudzu74 · 10-18-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 91Z28350

Never underestimate the power of stupid!

They always say if you make it idiot proof they will just build a better idiot...

slick rick · 10-18-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nachos!!

Did you read any of the coments on jays website? Some people actually think the car is going to have a checkered paint job.

At first I was like

but then I was like

mr02Z/28 · 10-18-2011, 06:56 PM

I'm tired of doing homework.... The reality is that those of you who think you are getting a ZL1 @ MSRP and especially at a MSRP of $47,000 or $48,000 is very unrealistic, you guys must be smoking some serious pipe action.... I don't think GM is worried about pricing the ZL1 in Corvette territory or any other GM cars range, it's an awesome ride with awesome specs so far and the performance is outstanding from what we have seen, so i believe the MSRP will surely reflect it.... I still think the MSRP will be around the $55,000 mark...

Have a goodnite folks !!!!

Kluch · 10-18-2011, 08:12 PM

Watched the vid today. I did not get the impression at all that the car will be anywhere near 75K. I think Jay used that number as a ballpark to exclude the z06 and include the CTS-V and others as has been said. The president followed up with a comment on how Chevy has always stood for value, etc. I think between 55-60K is much more realistic.

LOL at the people who posted on Jay's site that they hated the paint job and unrefined interior of a camouflaged test-mule! Morons.

ryan's camaro · 10-18-2011, 09:11 PM

The Camaro moonroof leaks? I never knew that!

OldJedi · 10-18-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan's camaro

The Camaro moonroof leaks? I never knew that!

It might have something to do with the headliner and gaskets being removed.

wldra66itZ · 10-19-2011, 03:35 AM

Drooling, drooling, wow wish this veteran had the funds for this. Dreams do they ever come true? All I want is a job and a ZL1! This is truly a magnificent piece of art that needs a owner like me! Dear Santa..........ZL1 pretty please cherry on top!

solo40oz · 10-19-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stex

Nice info here in vid. Wish I could buy the mag control suspension on the 2SS...do not need the HP but the mag control ride and the 5 levels of traction control would be a nice option...

+1

If anyone from GM is listening, this would sure be a nice setup for a Z/28

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