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Drake Heminger · 11-15-2011, 07:30 AM

the camaro still and always has looked better... (:

4DoorRocket · 11-15-2011, 07:31 AM

The ZL1 went around the ring in something like 7 minutes and 41 seconds. Although nothing has been confirmed for the GT500, individual spectators have reported the GT500 going around the ring in the 7 minute and 34 second range. I have also read somewhere, that it did it in 7 minutes and 31 seconds, but nothing official has backed that yet. I don't see it unreasonable though.

Obviously, with all of Fords upgrades to the GT500, it will be faster than the ZL1. It will be lighter and will have more horsepower. No doubt they have improved what they needed to.

I read somewhere, that they will have either 305's or 315's on the rear. So that should help out with traction, quite a bit.

Yes, the GT500 will be quicker, in a line and around a track, but to be 2nd best (performance wise) is nothing to be ashamed of here. They are both beefy cars.

4DoorRocket · 11-15-2011, 07:33 AM

The ZL1 went around the ring in something like 7 minutes and 41 seconds. Although nothing has been confirmed for the GT500, individual spectators have reported the GT500 going around the ring in the 7 minute and 34 second range. I have also read somewhere, that it did it in 7 minutes and 31 seconds, but nothing official has backed that yet. I don't see it unreasonable though.

Obviously, with all of Fords upgrades to the GT500, it will be faster than the ZL1. It will be lighter and will have more horsepower. No doubt they have improved what they needed to.

I read somewhere, that they will have either 305's or 315's on the rear. So that should help out with traction, quite a bit.

Yes, the GT500 will be quicker, in a line and around a track, but to be 2nd best (performance wise) is nothing to be ashamed of here. They are both beefy cars.

tooslow · 11-15-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kluch

Wow. Can't believe they actually did it. They need to change the name of the car now.

??? IIRC, the 500 in GT500 never had anything to do with how much power it made.

RLHMARINES · 11-15-2011, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by shockandawe

All the more embarrassing for the ZL1.

I do not find it embarrassing at all, considering how the LSA does it with 2 valves per cylinder 376 cubic inches and a 1900 TVS supercharger and the svt does it with 4 valves per cylinder and 351 cubic inches and a 2300 TVS supercharger. The ford should be making a whole lot more given the inherited advantages of ohc 4 valve air flow. Ford has responded as we all knew they would, but with a little extra zing.

Given all this info from ford I have only one statement to make.
I AM KEEPING THE FAITH!!! That is all.

Uneducated Guess · 11-15-2011, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by shockandawe

It seems like no matter what GM does, Ford is 2 steps ahead of them.

And yet, the camaro outsells mustang every year.

Drake Heminger · 11-15-2011, 07:39 AM

althought the extra hp... prices will remain the same on the gt500... this is how ford works... more power for less... we will see how this affects the price difference on this car... if not ford is more bang for your buck

Drake Heminger · 11-15-2011, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uneducated Guess

And yet, the camaro outsells mustang every year.

its bc transformers (; lol

SSMagna · 11-15-2011, 07:40 AM

You would think with an extra $52 Billion dollars that GM could find a few extra horsepower to match the GT500. I'm a long time Chevrolet fan but congrats to Ford again.

Verbolten · 11-15-2011, 07:42 AM

580HP to 650HP ... Chevy is in trouble...

Rock36 · 11-15-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DietCoke

These cars will go easy 10s on a tire with a driver. Ford did the right thing. This snake will thomp the ZL1 on the dragstrip, if not the road course. Ultimately HP wars benefit the consumer. I like the snake and the camaro, but ford has done a better job with its latest effort.

To a certain point, but I know I don't have the money to exchange my car every year for the newest baddest engine, or when a car becomes obsolete after one model year.

Crowley · 11-15-2011, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Black5thgen

The reign of the ZL1 is over before one was ever built.

Let's hope the ZL1 can win the price war part of it

Crowley

Pope Designs · 11-15-2011, 07:45 AM

All I can say is Damn! That car is going to be bad ass!

JoshBobGuptaMarley · 11-15-2011, 07:47 AM

Ya, I've seen mustangs with 100 hp over the camaro still get smashed. I wouldn't be to worried just yet. Mustang has a tough time translating numbers into raw power.

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11-15-2011, 07:30 AM	#127
Drake Heminger Drives: 2014 Stingray Z51 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 2,951	the camaro still and always has looked better... (:

11-15-2011, 07:31 AM	#128
4DoorRocket Drives: It's a 4 door rocket!!! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Depends on which month Posts: 100	The ZL1 went around the ring in something like 7 minutes and 41 seconds. Although nothing has been confirmed for the GT500, individual spectators have reported the GT500 going around the ring in the 7 minute and 34 second range. I have also read somewhere, that it did it in 7 minutes and 31 seconds, but nothing official has backed that yet. I don't see it unreasonable though. Obviously, with all of Fords upgrades to the GT500, it will be faster than the ZL1. It will be lighter and will have more horsepower. No doubt they have improved what they needed to. I read somewhere, that they will have either 305's or 315's on the rear. So that should help out with traction, quite a bit. Yes, the GT500 will be quicker, in a line and around a track, but to be 2nd best (performance wise) is nothing to be ashamed of here. They are both beefy cars.

11-15-2011, 07:33 AM	#129
4DoorRocket Drives: It's a 4 door rocket!!! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Depends on which month Posts: 100	The ZL1 went around the ring in something like 7 minutes and 41 seconds. Although nothing has been confirmed for the GT500, individual spectators have reported the GT500 going around the ring in the 7 minute and 34 second range. I have also read somewhere, that it did it in 7 minutes and 31 seconds, but nothing official has backed that yet. I don't see it unreasonable though. Obviously, with all of Fords upgrades to the GT500, it will be faster than the ZL1. It will be lighter and will have more horsepower. No doubt they have improved what they needed to. I read somewhere, that they will have either 305's or 315's on the rear. So that should help out with traction, quite a bit. Yes, the GT500 will be quicker, in a line and around a track, but to be 2nd best (performance wise) is nothing to be ashamed of here. They are both beefy cars.

11-15-2011, 07:39 AM	#133
Drake Heminger Drives: 2014 Stingray Z51 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 2,951	althought the extra hp... prices will remain the same on the gt500... this is how ford works... more power for less... we will see how this affects the price difference on this car... if not ford is more bang for your buck

11-15-2011, 07:40 AM	#135
SSMagna FAST1 Drives: ADM LSX 427 Twin Turbo #1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 402	You would think with an extra $52 Billion dollars that GM could find a few extra horsepower to match the GT500. I'm a long time Chevrolet fan but congrats to Ford again.

11-15-2011, 07:42 AM	#136
Verbolten Drives: someday a convertible Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: PA Posts: 266	580HP to 650HP ... Chevy is in trouble...

11-15-2011, 07:45 AM	#139
Pope Designs Drives: 2013 ZL1 Rally Yellow Join Date: May 2009 Location: Knightdale, NC Posts: 347	All I can say is Damn! That car is going to be bad ass!