2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500 650 HP! How will it stack up against the ZL1?

[IOMZL1]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

You may be able to. How heavy is the stock camaro's driveshaft? The mustang's is a joke. It has a huge balance weight on it and weighs 40+ lbs. If yours is that heavy too then a CF driveshaft would be a great idea, but costly.

I think there is only around 3lbs to save with a CF driveshaft on a Camaro. Maybe the ZL1 shaft is heavier - I'm not sure.

[HEMI DAVE]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

i dont think they are going to hit 650. thats just me. i callin thier bluff

I agree........it's gonna be more like 660

[lil_red_v6]

Originally Posted by Grabber

What makes you say that?

The 2011-2012 GT500 made 550HP out of a less efficient 5.4 Liter motor. Now they are increasing the motor to a 5.8, slapping a bigger and more efficient blower, adding a lot of cooling modifications, etc.

i think thier bluffing. something in the back of my mind just tells me there not going to hit 650. im not saying its not possible im just saying there not going to. 600 i see that but not 650.

[HEMI DAVE]

Shock and awe....disbelief.......Ford did good.....

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

i think thier bluffing. something in the back of my mind just tells me there not going to hit 650. im not saying its not possible im just saying there not going to. 600 i see that but not 650.

So, something in the back of your mind is more reliable than a press release from the company? It would be very, very dumb for Ford to announce it has 650hp then drop it to 600. It would also be very dumb to design and produce an entirely new 5.8l v8 to put down numbers the 5.4 can easily make reliably.

[bad2000z]

Originally Posted by HEMI DAVE

I agree........it's gonna be more like 660

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

i think thier bluffing. something in the back of my mind just tells me there not going to hit 650. im not saying its not possible im just saying there not going to. 600 i see that but not 650.

Can you listen to yourself for a minute?

The previous 2011-2012 GT500 put down nearly 500 RWHP, with less displacement, a less efficient motor/blower combo and less cooling mods.

Think what you will man.

[lil_red_v6]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

So, something in the back of your mind is more reliable than a press release from the company? It would be very, very dumb for Ford to announce it has 650hp then drop it to 600. It would also be very dumb to design and produce an entirely new 5.8l v8 to put down numbers the 5.4 can easily make reliably.

not saying its cant be done. just not getting hopes up about it being 650. and if they do than congrats to ford. just my .02

[Betiwin]

Originally Posted by bad2000z

Yes if anything that Ford has shown over the last decade. Lord knows 03 cobra was vastly underrated. The GT500 originally was to have 450 and came out with 500. Same could be said for Chevy tho, Zl1 up to a month ago was 550 until the SAE certified their numbers. Car will be 650+ watch.

[toilets]

holy hell

http://jalopnik.com/5860063/the-2013...eed-of-202-mph

[tomsws6]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

doing that is just enough to keep pace with the current GT500 which becomes a different monster with smaller pulleys, tune, and drag tires. You don't believe me, go read on it. With your mentality, what do you think happens when the new GT500 does the same pulley and tune mod?

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Ok, why dont you read my whole post before you start complaining about my mentality. I plainly said that all this means nothing because niether one is out yet so it all bench racing. I am a enthusiast. I have have had many different brand name performance cars. I tend to lean twards GM in alot of cases but I actually love the looks of the GT500 and hell Id love to have both the Z and 500 in my garage. My last few word was more of a sacastic poke at the whole thread. Like I said, non of this matters yet as niether one is out and in the hands of anyone besides the manufacture and I dont put any stock in manufacture times at all.

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by Betiwin

Yes if anything that Ford has shown over the last decade. Lord knows 03 cobra was vastly underrated. The GT500 originally was to have 450 and came out with 500. Same could be said for Chevy tho, Zl1 up to a month ago was 550 until the SAE certified their numbers. Car will be 650+ watch.

I would also point out that Ford also learned a painful lesson when the 1999 cobra didn't make the advertised 320hp... Which led to a factory fix and no cobra again until 2001. They would not do that again with this GT500.

[HPT BANDIT]

Originally Posted by Scarrzz

I did check for an example online, but apparently the internet lied to me.

If I can lose 20+ pounds of reciprocating weight, I'll cough up a grand for a CF driveshaft & maybe some half axles as well.

Here you go
http://www.vmptuning.com/store/index...=392&parent=88

[tomsws6]

Originally Posted by toilets

holy hell

http://jalopnik.com/5860063/the-2013...eed-of-202-mph

If thats true then thas bad ass.