Can Camaro Single-handedly Save GM? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Fandango · 04-13-2009, 02:42 PM

I've done some thinking. Can one car save a brand? Yes, but can it save a company? I'm not going to go into all the usual boring details and facts that I come up with. It's time to let positive people speak. I see camaro hitting the streets before that June deadline and then people seeing them and saying, "was that what I think that was?" For those of us on this site, all we know is Camaro. Be aware, there are some people who don't know about what a Camaro is much less that that car in the Transformers is a Chevy, maybe even don't have a computer. If Camaro surpasses our expectation as far as it has lately, and if it does that same in quality, it will make people ask, "what else do you sell? Really, I didn't know that."

I love that new "America needs a Comeback" concept. GM has to apeal to Ameicans with a Buy American Campaign. I think it will work. What do you think? On the heels of Easter, is there another type of resurection comming?

Enator · 04-13-2009, 02:45 PM

100 000 Camaros per year saving GM? Just forget it

KatarHol · 04-13-2009, 02:47 PM

A nicer Impala might help.

M3 · 04-13-2009, 02:47 PM

In a word?

No.

LJB

ArcAngel · 04-13-2009, 02:48 PM

Not even close projection for production is 100k a year doesn't mean they will sell those after year one. GM needs a hell of a lot more

vm1971 · 04-13-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enator

100 000 Camaros per year saving GM? Just forget it

i dont think he means it that way.
and if you have such "faith" and drive a volvo, why are you here?

cyberbro · 04-13-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fandango

I've done some thinking. Can one car save a brand? Yes, but can it save a company? I'm not going to go into all the usual boring details and facts that I come up with. It's time to let positive people speak. I see camaro hitting the streets before that June deadline and then people seeing them and saying, "was that what I think that was?" For those of us on this site, all we know is Camaro. Be aware, there are some people who don't know about what a Camaro is much less that that car in the Transformers is a Chevy, maybe even don't have a computer. If Camaro surpasses our expectation as far as it has lately, and if it does that same in quality, it will make people ask, "what else do you sell? Really, I didn't know that."

I love that new "America needs a Comeback" concept. GM has to apeal to Ameicans with a Buy American Campaign. I think it will work. What do you think? On the heels of Easter, is there another type of resurection comming?

I don't think the Camaro can, but it could be the spark that starts the momentum that will!

They need to make all the right moves and not drop the ball.

alex33x · 04-13-2009, 02:54 PM

No think about it how many people want one? yeah here we all do but thats why its camaro forums. But if you go out there and ask I bet you maybe one 1 20 would get a camaro, and even then probably even 1 in 100 acutallly can afford one.

toesuf94 · 04-13-2009, 02:54 PM

The new Camaro may attract buyers back to GM, and after experiencing the car, may look at other products that are in the catalog for other transportation needs. We have a post in today's posts about a person going from Lexus to a new Camaro...and if that person's experiences are good, then they will more than likely convert a few friends, and THAT is how the ball gets rolling towards saving GM. Word of mouth about a positive experience with a GM product. I have sold three new GMT-900's and four Enclaves to people I know just by taking them for rides and drives in my Tahoe and our Buick Enclave.

vm1971 · 04-13-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberbro

I don't think the Camaro can, but it could be the spark that starts the momentum that will!

They need to make all the right moves and not drop the ball.

exactly.
i swear, i hope its not coincidence... but this weekend ive seen SO MANY new malibus, traverses, etc... on the road.. with the dealer tage and their temp tags in the windows. happy new GM owners! even a few G8s. im an eagle-eye on the road and i look all the time, but i was really surprised this past weekend/week. lots of new GM iron on the road.

Enator · 04-13-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vm1971

i dont think he means it that way.
and if you have such "faith" and drive a volvo, why are you here?

To buy a Camaro but GM will deliver it at 2011 here in Sweden and EU so hel no Camaro will not save GM with this policy they have

vm1971 · 04-13-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KatarHol

A nicer Impala might help.

within reach, too.
it would rock... cause i dont know about where you all live,
but around HERE....

IMPALA rules the road. sooooooooooooo many. pre-06, post-06...
its insane.

and all trims, too. seeing the SS is NOT that rare!!!
its a huge car here.

Chevyrocker · 04-13-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberbro

I don't think the Camaro can, but it could be the spark that starts the momentum that will!

They need to make all the right moves and not drop the ball.

Ideal line up for Chevrolet is not too far away...

replace Aveo with spark
replace cobalt with cruze
replace HHR with Orlando
redesign Impala (NOW!!!!)

Camaro
Corvette (I'd love a new body style for the centennial coming up...)
Malibu
Traverse

Tahoe
Suburban
Silverado
Avalanche- All four of these will get a half life revamp soon if not a completely new body style

Colorado needs to get axed and replaced with an all-new S10...

I believe the Camaro is just the shot in the arm that Chevrolet needs to get people interested again

greenrail · 04-13-2009, 02:59 PM

New Impala, the Cruze, something better than the Aveo. All of these would be better suited to help GM. Mass market appeal is the key to success.

The Malibu was a great start. Just need to sustain the innovation and quality improvements.

The Camaro will do okay, just not the do all end all to save the company.

04-13-2009, 02:42 PM	#1
Fandango (In Z/28 Therapy) Drives: 2014 SS Camaro (Sookie) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zephyrhills, FL Posts: 466	Can Camaro Single-handedly Save GM? I've done some thinking. Can one car save a brand? Yes, but can it save a company? I'm not going to go into all the usual boring details and facts that I come up with. It's time to let positive people speak. I see camaro hitting the streets before that June deadline and then people seeing them and saying, "was that what I think that was?" For those of us on this site, all we know is Camaro. Be aware, there are some people who don't know about what a Camaro is much less that that car in the Transformers is a Chevy, maybe even don't have a computer. If Camaro surpasses our expectation as far as it has lately, and if it does that same in quality, it will make people ask, "what else do you sell? Really, I didn't know that." I love that new "America needs a Comeback" concept. GM has to apeal to Ameicans with a Buy American Campaign. I think it will work. What do you think? On the heels of Easter, is there another type of resurection comming? __________________ Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.”

04-13-2009, 02:48 PM	#5
ArcAngel Drives: 07 Black Cobalt SS/SC Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manalapan-NJ Posts: 2,872	Not even close projection for production is 100k a year doesn't mean they will sell those after year one. GM needs a hell of a lot more __________________ Through HIM you believe in GOD, who raised HIM from the dead and Glorified him..

04-13-2009, 02:54 PM	#8
alex33x Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 687	No think about it how many people want one? yeah here we all do but thats why its camaro forums. But if you go out there and ask I bet you maybe one 1 20 would get a camaro, and even then probably even 1 in 100 acutallly can afford one. __________________ Devliered July 20, 2012

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Enator Drives: 2011 SHELBY GT500 & Volvo S80 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 395	100 000 Camaros per year saving GM? Just forget it

04-13-2009, 02:47 PM	#3
KatarHol Drives: '04 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: TN Posts: 313	A nicer Impala might help.

04-13-2009, 02:47 PM	#4
M3 Drives: 2002 BMW M3 Cabriolet Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 20	In a word? No. LJB

04-13-2009, 02:54 PM	#9
toesuf94 Drives: THR #11 E-force supercharged Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Posts: 4,746	The new Camaro may attract buyers back to GM, and after experiencing the car, may look at other products that are in the catalog for other transportation needs. We have a post in today's posts about a person going from Lexus to a new Camaro...and if that person's experiences are good, then they will more than likely convert a few friends, and THAT is how the ball gets rolling towards saving GM. Word of mouth about a positive experience with a GM product. I have sold three new GMT-900's and four Enclaves to people I know just by taking them for rides and drives in my Tahoe and our Buick Enclave.

04-13-2009, 02:59 PM	#14
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,392	New Impala, the Cruze, something better than the Aveo. All of these would be better suited to help GM. Mass market appeal is the key to success. The Malibu was a great start. Just need to sustain the innovation and quality improvements. The Camaro will do okay, just not the do all end all to save the company.