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lil_red_v6 · 01-11-2012, 12:31 AM

I'm headers full exhaust small cam CIA.
Vs 4th gen Stock SS.

My buddy has a 4th Gen SS that is stage 1 cam full exhaust Hurst short throw and CIA.
he eats me up. So what about a stock SS?

camslambam · 01-11-2012, 01:18 AM

Is CIA = CAI ?

No idea what your power level is at.

All I know is that your engine = 5slowwww.

GMRULZ · 01-11-2012, 07:22 AM

Trust me, unless you have forced induction, you are in trouble...:(

evolve · 01-11-2012, 07:39 AM

Agreed^^ or a ~150 shot and some weight redux.

Stew · 01-11-2012, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lil_red_v6

I'm headers full exhaust small cam CIA.
Vs 4th gen Stock SS.

My buddy has a 4th Gen SS that is stage 1 cam full exhaust Hurst short throw and CIA.
he eats me up. So what about a stock SS?

LT1 or LS1? I would say any LS1 will eat you alive, may be able to give an LT1 a run, especially the first few years.

big hammer · 01-11-2012, 12:20 PM

anyone remember the guy on here that claimed 80's 5.0 fox bodies would run 12's stock?

ULTRAZLS1 · 01-11-2012, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big hammer

anyone remember the guy on here that claimed 80's 5.0 fox bodies would run 12's stock?

Huffer SS said it. His account was recently suspended for some reason.

They were in the 14's unless you had a really good driver and conditions.

In the 80s for some stang magazine a guy rented out atco raceway in the middle of winter. He pulled the spare/jack, pulled the air filter, and upped the timing. He ran some mid 13's I believe. From then on the mustang guys went nuts...even though real world times were a full second away from this.

Bad70supreme · 01-11-2012, 01:47 PM

They are slow, end of story... I knew of a bunch of cammed foxes that were still in the 13s! They only made what 225hp or something close, after a cam and full boltons they still were not that great! They did run pretty good on the street from a dig... sounded allot stonger then what they ran

My stock LT1 with a muffler and intake would eat up those fox bodys all the time... An Ls1 car is going to destroy a fox 5.0.

Grabber · 01-11-2012, 02:04 PM

LS1 will def. take you.

You will need a few more bolt-ons and a solid tune + tires to keep up with one.

An LT1 you would have a better shot at, however, the edge would still go to the LT1 at your current power levels.

BigDan · 01-11-2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

They are slow, end of story... I knew of a bunch of cammed foxes that were still in the 13s! They only made what 225hp or something close, after a cam and full boltons they still were not that great! They did run pretty good on the street from a dig... sounded allot stonger then what they ran

My stock LT1 with a muffler and intake would eat up those fox bodys all the time... An Ls1 car is going to destroy a fox 5.0.

I grew up on GM muscle cars and I loathed 5.0L Fox bodies when I was hitting the streets with my 67 Camaro w/ a stalled and geared ZZ4. 15 years later I find myself reading MM&FF and was surprised with their build up on a strictly basics carb'd 5.0L.

Good reading if anybody wants to educate them self on one of the most successful drag racing platforms.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...p/viewall.html

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...t_3/index.html

Now day's I'd rather have a clean notch over a LT1 4th gen. I guess the kool-aid is wearing off as I mature.

Deki · 01-11-2012, 04:46 PM

I'm gonna guess a stock LS1 will still show you it's tails.

KMPrenger · 01-12-2012, 10:40 AM

Did you do more mods? Just a few weeks ago you was asking if you could take a Camaro V6 and the concensus was that it would be close with some leaning towards the V6 on top end.

Now your wondering if you can take a 4th gen SS? I say LT1 maybe...LS1 nope.

lil_red_v6 · 01-12-2012, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Did you do more mods? Just a few weeks ago you was asking if you could take a Camaro V6 and the concensus was that it would be close with some leaning towards the V6 on top end.

Now your wondering if you can take a 4th gen SS? I say LT1 maybe...LS1 nope.

No just seeing where my car might stand against a 4 the Gen being LT or LS. So I know what would be a good race or not at the track. Not trying to be a pain to any one. Just catering info is all.

VADER SS L99 · 01-13-2012, 01:51 PM

I have an idea that will put any stock 4th gen or 5th gen for that matter to shame. Do an LSX conversion. Its actually more popular than you think and even a mild LSX motor would get you kicked off a track for running too fast without a cage.

01-11-2012, 12:31 AM	#1
lil_red_v6 one wheelin Drives: 2004 yamaha r6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: saginaw Posts: 2,200	my 95 5.0 vs 4th gen camaro z28 or ss I'm headers full exhaust small cam CIA. Vs 4th gen Stock SS. My buddy has a 4th Gen SS that is stage 1 cam full exhaust Hurst short throw and CIA. he eats me up. So what about a stock SS?

01-11-2012, 07:22 AM	#3
GMRULZ Drives: 2010 SS & 2008 C6 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,819	Trust me, unless you have forced induction, you are in trouble...:( __________________ 2010 SS L99, 536rwhp 10.843@126.72. Whipple Supercharger stock pulley, ARH 1 7/8 longtubes w/ catted xpipe, magnaflow 3" mufflers, ADM Race CAI, 3:70 gears, lightweight wheels and nitto drag radials. Stock internal L99, stock converter. Bolt on best before blower 12.22@113.29 w/ nothing but ARH headers, catted x-pipe, ADM CAI and a tune on stock Pzero`s! Other car 2008 C6 Ls3, z51, A6, Npp Exhaust, best bonestock pass 11.80@118.82, Number 2 on the Corvette Forums Bonestock fastest list..

01-11-2012, 07:39 AM	#4
evolve Drives: 03 Cobra Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cyber Space Posts: 508	Agreed^^ or a ~150 shot and some weight redux. __________________ 2003 Cobra (Stock Motor/Boost Only) 640rwhp/ 550rwtq on 93... Well over 700rwhp on CORN

01-11-2012, 12:20 PM	#6
big hammer Drives: 2002 ws6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: manitoba Posts: 1,202	anyone remember the guy on here that claimed 80's 5.0 fox bodies would run 12's stock? __________________ Bolt on 2002 ls1 Trans am--- 11.5 @ 121 (1.72) 2000 da

01-11-2012, 01:47 PM	#8
Bad70supreme Drives: 2010 aqua blue SS/RS M6 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: plainfield, IL Posts: 2,706	They are slow, end of story... I knew of a bunch of cammed foxes that were still in the 13s! They only made what 225hp or something close, after a cam and full boltons they still were not that great! They did run pretty good on the street from a dig... sounded allot stonger then what they ran My stock LT1 with a muffler and intake would eat up those fox bodys all the time... An Ls1 car is going to destroy a fox 5.0. __________________ 10.91 at 122 H/C stock block N/A

01-11-2012, 01:18 AM	#2
camslambam Account Suspended Drives: 2010 SS, 06 SRT10 Ram Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: C. America Posts: 1,658	Is CIA = CAI ? No idea what your power level is at. All I know is that your engine = 5slowwww.

01-11-2012, 02:04 PM	#9
Grabber Just a car guy Drives: 2016 Durango R/T AWD Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 808	LS1 will def. take you. You will need a few more bolt-ons and a solid tune + tires to keep up with one. An LT1 you would have a better shot at, however, the edge would still go to the LT1 at your current power levels. __________________ 2016 Durango R/T AWD 2014 5.0 - Ported CobraJet Manifold - SCJ Mono-Blade TB - Kooks 1-3/4" LT Headers - Kooks O/R H-pipe - Custom Intake - McLeod clutch line - Borla S-Type Axle Backs - AED Tuned - 443 RWHP / 388 RWTQ - GONE 05 GT - Sold 03 Cobra - Gone (Never Forgotten)

01-11-2012, 04:46 PM	#11
Deki Drives: 2018 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,764 View My Garage	I'm gonna guess a stock LS1 will still show you it's tails. __________________ 2018 Mustang GT

01-12-2012, 10:40 AM	#12
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	Did you do more mods? Just a few weeks ago you was asking if you could take a Camaro V6 and the concensus was that it would be close with some leaning towards the V6 on top end. Now your wondering if you can take a 4th gen SS? I say LT1 maybe...LS1 nope. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

01-13-2012, 01:51 PM	#14
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I have an idea that will put any stock 4th gen or 5th gen for that matter to shame. Do an LSX conversion. Its actually more popular than you think and even a mild LSX motor would get you kicked off a track for running too fast without a cage. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

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