Now the tests out, ZL1 over hyped

[Grabber]

Straight from the Nurburgring ring times.

20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:19.63Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012)Jim Mero9 June 2011General Motors conducted test,[13] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure)[14] and non-stock safety equipment including a roll cage equipped, video confirmed.

20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:24.22Nissan GT-R (2011)Toshio Suzuki1 October 2010Nissan conducted test.[18] Semi-wet conditions. Video confirmed. Best Motoring (12/2010).[19]

See my point?

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Grabber

That was on Slicks.

GTR ran the 7:24 on Street tires.

Fastest time for the ZR1 on STREET TIRES was 7:26.

Imagine what the GTR would do with Slicks all around to make it fair?

Hmmm?

They weren't slicks, but DOT-legal competition tires...

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Grabber

Straight from the Nurburgring ring times.

20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:19.63Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012)Jim Mero9 June 2011General Motors conducted test,[13] base specification car with optional super-slick track DOT competition tires (Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure)[14] and non-stock safety equipment including a roll cage equipped, video confirmed.

20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:24.22Nissan GT-R (2011)Toshio Suzuki1 October 2010Nissan conducted test.[18] Semi-wet conditions. Video confirmed. Best Motoring (12/2010).[19]

See my point?

So... AWD had no influence on traction?...

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by radz28

So... AWD had no influence on traction?...

Not going to argue with you.

READ WHAT IT SAID.

The GTR ran in WET CONDITIONS on FACTORY TIRES.

The ZR1 Ran with AFTERMARKET SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND SLICKS/DOT Competition Tires AND A ROLL CAGE.

Do you think the GTR would run slower with DOT Tire/Slicks and a Cage with other Aftermarket equipment?

Really?

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by Grabber

That was on Slicks.

GTR ran the 7:24 on Street tires.

Fastest time for the ZR1 on STREET TIRES was 7:26.

Imagine what the GTR would do with Slicks all around to make it fair?

Hmmm?

The Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires are DOT street legal tires. They are not slicks.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Grabber

Not going to argue with you.

READ WHAT IT SAID.

The GTR ran in WET CONDITIONS on FACTORY TIRES.

The ZR1 Ran with AFTERMARKET SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND SLICKS/DOT Competition Tires AND A ROLL CAGE.

Do you think the GTR would run slower with DOT Tire/Slicks and a Cage with other Aftermarket equipment?

Really?

How about you research before posting incorrect data. Those are new tires for '12... GM puts cages in most if not all it's cars that they test on tracks. The cage is for safety.

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-zr1-sports-car/

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

The Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires are DOT street legal tires. They are not slicks.

Point is, does it come from Chevy that way?

You are forgetting it also had a Cage, and other not specified equipment.

No, it doesn't come from the factory with Cup tires, a roll cage, and other "equipment"

I know what they are, I had RA-1's on my purpose built 03 Cobra that had a full cage, and every suspension mod imaginable.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Grabber

Point is, does it come from Chevy that way?

You are forgetting it also had a Cage, and other not specified equipment.

No, it doesn't come from the factory with Cup tires, a roll cage, and other "equipment"

I know what they are, I had RA-1's on my purpose built 03 Cobra that had a full cage, and every suspension mod imaginable.

Point is - yes...

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by radz28

How about you research before posting incorrect data. Those are new tires for '12... GM puts cages in most if not all it's cars that they test on tracks. The cage is for safety.

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette-zr1-sports-car/

This was not a 2012 ZR1 that was tested though.

Also, I know what a cage does. It's not for ONLY safety.

You seem to be bent on not admitting the ZR1 was modified, and could still run a 7:19 without a Cage, and other equipment, and DOT approved Radials.

Yet, here are some more listings.

20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:26.4Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2009)Jim Mero27 June 2008General Motors conducted test,[20] base specification car with stock tires and non-stock safety equipment, video confirmed.

20,600 m (67,600 ft)7:38Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1Horst von SaurmaOctober 2009Sport Auto conducted test,[34] Michelin Pilot Sport ZP run-flat tires used.

[Grabber]

Originally Posted by radz28

Point is - yes...

Cool.

Can you show me where on Chevy's site it comes with a Roll Cage, and other Non-Stock Equipment?

Thanks.

[Scrappy Doo]

This thread needs a tape measure.........

[S-eatin-grin]

I'm willing to accept that the GTR is as fast around the ring as the ZR1...but I still would take the ZR1 any day of the week for ownership. They both are badass but I like the vette's looks and mystique better. why don't we see any mustang ring time numbers in this discussion..are they embarassing or something?

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by Toyaholic

Everybody want to compare the ZL1 to the new GT-500. What will they compare the ZR1 too? Ford has nothing for the Vette, if the 500 is a Camaro fighter.

Nothing. That's the point. This site lends itself to the Camaro enthusiast primarily, not the Corvette enthusiast. There are plenty of sites that do if you just want to argue GM versus Ford. The fact remains, the GT500 and ZL1 are direct competitors. Who really cares how bad either measures up to a car in a completely different class of vehicle.

Just ask GoldenBear, he made the point with is position regarding the Porsche variant in comparison with the ZL1.

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by Grabber

Point is, does it come from Chevy that way?

You are forgetting it also had a Cage, and other not specified equipment.

No, it doesn't come from the factory with Cup tires,

Yes, the ZR1 does comes from Chevrolet with Cup tires.