Now the tests out, ZL1 over hyped

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

I wonder if anyone remembers how GM offered Stage I and Stage II kits for the turbo and supercharged Chevy Cobalt and the difference in performance it made. A simple pully swap could do the same for a ZL1 and then there would be no need for applogies. I understood the 13 GT500 will use 15 PSI boost on the supercharger. wouldn't that about max it out and the ZL1 is getting 7.5 PSI (not sure)?

No, the blower is not maxed out. People have strapped TVS 2300 ('13 GT500 blower) on 5.4L gt500s and made over 700rwhp on 20psi. The revised, new gt500 should be able to do a bit better due to more aggressive cams, revised heads and a bump in displacement.

[tooslow]

Remember, the 5.0 was maxed out from the factory, too.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by Drake Heminger

dude your mustang looks sick!

Thanks brother

[fbodfather]

X 1,000,000,000,000,000.........

oh

my

dear

LORD!!!


I started to read the last 5 or 6 pages of this particular thread -


...........and I'm just - welll............

The only thing I can relate this thread to is a couple of old guys sitting around a checker board arguing about anything and everything - ---


..........and I'm just WAITING for someone to yell.........


"hey you kids!!!! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!


Talk about conjecture and trolling and posturing and such........

One would be wise to listen to a few people on this thread - such as Mr. Pedders and Mr. Number 3.............

And to some of you who have no intention of ever buying a Camaro - what exactly IS your purpose here?

Just askin'..........

[radz28]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

X 1,000,000,000,000,000.........

oh

my

dear

LORD!!!


I started to read the last 5 or 6 pages of this particular thread -


...........and I'm just - welll............

The only thing I can relate this thread to is a couple of old guys sitting around a checker board arguing about anything and everything - ---


..........and I'm just WAITING for someone to yell.........


"hey you kids!!!! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!


Talk about conjecture and trolling and posturing and such........

One would be wise to listen to a few people on this thread - such as Mr. Pedders and Mr. Number 3.............

And to some of you who have no intention of ever buying a Camaro - what exactly IS your purpose here?
Just askin'..........

A question I ask too often...

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

X 1,000,000,000,000,000.........

oh

my

dear

LORD!!!


I started to read the last 5 or 6 pages of this particular thread -


...........and I'm just - welll............



The only thing I can relate this thread to is a couple of old guys sitting around a checker board arguing about anything and everything - ---


..........and I'm just WAITING for someone to yell.........


"hey you kids!!!! GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!


Talk about conjecture and trolling and posturing and such........

One would be wise to listen to a few people on this thread - such as Mr. Pedders and Mr. Number 3.............

And to some of you who have no intention of ever buying a Camaro - what exactly IS your purpose here?

Just askin'..........

This X a Trillion





If you think the Boss or Shelby is that much better, I believe there are Mustang forums? I understand you might like cars in general, but I am over people taking shots at the ZL1. If you have one on order or are going to get one in the future I would love to hear your points. That being said if you only want a Mustang please just let us enjoy the ZL1 because we like it A LOT!!

[PQ]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

And to some of you who have no intention of ever buying a Camaro - what exactly IS your purpose here?

Just askin'..........

EXACTLY. Even though some of them who have no plans to ever buy a Camaro could possible FIND plans to buy one or even if not, some of them just like American Muscle and are respectful and in good natured fun.

BUT, you are right for sure.

[Scarrzz]

Wow, PQ.

As I've been away for a couple of weeks, I've missed out on a few things, and I just jumped into the last post of this thread to see the latest stuff...

This image



Rocked me back into my seat. Clint in a bad mood is one scary individual.

I don'wanna go there, so I think I'll just skip this thread altogether and bypass the angst.

[fbodfather]

One other thought:

(Thank you, Donna!)

[OldScoolCamaro]

" Kids!
I don't know what's wrong with these kids today!
Kids!
Who can understand anything they say?
Kids!
They a disobedient, disrespectful oafs!
Noisy, crazy, dirty, lazy, loafers!
While we're on the subject:
Kids!
You can talk and talk till your face is blue!
Kids!
But they still just do what they want to do!
Why can't they be like we were,
Perfect in every way?
What's the matter with kids today?
Kids!
I've tried to raise him the best I could
Kids! Kids!
Laughing, singing, dancing, grinning, morons!
And while we're on the subject!
Kids! They are just impossible to control!
Kids! With their awful clothes and their rock an' roll!
Why can't they dance like we did
What's wrong with Sammy Kaye?
What's the matter with kids today"


"Kids" - Bye Bye Birdie

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

The only thing I can relate this thread to is a couple of old guys sitting around a checker board arguing about anything and everything.......

I understand your frustration, but there's no need to call out GoldenBear, OldScoolCamaro and htron50!

[OldScoolCamaro]

Originally Posted by tooslow

I understand your frustration, but there's no need to call out GoldenBear, OldScoolCamaro and htron50!

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by tooslow

I understand your frustration, but there's no need to call out GoldenBear, OldScoolCamaro and htron50!

These gentlemen are some of our best!

I'm putting them in my will!

They're not the "old guys" that I had in mind.....

(...I did, however, have others in mind when I posted that....)

[htron50]

I really thought I was back in 1968 listening to the freshman class in October trying to justify how come they were as important as the seniors (no pun intended LOL) . Sometimes there just is no substitution for experience (aka "life")....

So, all you who are buying a ZL1, and all you who are contemplating your next purchase, don't sweat the small stuff. Be kind, be patient, but of all things.....

"STAY IN SCHOOL" Cuz you don't know who you're messin with!!



There's a lot of good teachers here who are truly looking out for your welfare, and if you youngins would listen up a little, you'll soon realize that and mature out some. We know the engineers at GM and FORD are throwing all they can into the mix while the gettin' is good. It's going to be a close race! To have this level of performance being served up to us by both companies is amazing. There is ONE WINNER here, and it is the Performance Enthusiast. Nitpicking the S^@T out of a subject is not productive, hard to listen to, and a waste of energy. There is a fine line between being enthusiastic and being a pain in the RUMPUS. I'd hate to see you sent to "time out"..... (trust me, it's no fun!)

And while I'm at it, I just want to thank the "mods" for being somewhat patient in this room and allowing the bellows to moderate. It looks like it may be running out of oxygen. Maybe the whole thread could be moved out now to "Camaro vs "