Shno's House of Z

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

The Team has to look at the overall (BIG) picture, here.

Sales, at the moment, and "interest", at the moment, are in a great place considering the Camaro approaches 3 full years of sustained sales success. The ZL1's arrival, and results on-track, put the car at the pinnacle...currently. The ZL1's arrival also has had the desired effect of invigorating interest in ALL Camaros. BUT...you can't rest on your laurels, not for a second...

1LE polls: In place because they were requested. The results indicate "Build it and they will come". BUT...in my feeble mind...get the details right. Polls indicate about 50% seek some added umph. Polls indicate, 3-to-1, 1SS should be the starting point and, to be as inclusive as possible, a 2SS-type version should be available...perhaps with an Automatic, as well (Horrors! The man has lost his mind!). "Focued"...but ALSO focused on VOLUME...and therefore Market Share.

Clearly, a 1LE bridges the pricing chasm 'tween SS and ZL1...will add volume...will add Share...will add profit$... But "the devil IS in the details"...AND the pricing. MG9/3.73 required. Ram Air/CAI, too.

ZL1+: Only likely if "required"...and I'm not yet convinced it is/will be. I happen to believe the Camaro's basic structure, and suspension capabilities, is superior in all regards excepting weight which really seems to be compensated for with MRC and wheels/tires/brakes. Production-wise, I'm NOT expecting a major diet at this late point.

If required, call up "Scotty"...in Wixom...and ask for the 'NINER!

Z/28: If only...and, frankly, who knows?! 1LE+...the "+" in the engine bay...

Gen-5 Send-off: A unique opportunity exists for a '14.5 uber-special send-off Model, that encompasses all the lessons learned with the Gen-5. It could encompass a "Wixom Wonder"...or it could bridge the "old" Gen-5 chassis with the "new" Gen-5 SBC in its ultra-power version...something we're NOT likely to see the likes of, post-'15, when the clamps of CAFE '16 fully tighten. Built in relatively small numbers (something between ZR1 and ZL1, or one per dealer) with a price tag commensurate of its "totality". Uber-special...uber-priced. And THIS one would put to rest any doubts that a Camaro is the "ultimate" of its Class...until the world beholds the fabulous Gen-6!

"Wishful thinking"? Damn straight...but the Team can do it. And will, if need be...

Congratulations on the 8000th post in the house.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Congratulations on the 8000th post in the house.

And it is a Z specific post

[LOWDOWN]

Well, for "Eighty Twelve", how 'bout someone gettin' a torch to light all those damn candles...and who'd like an outside/corner piece of the cake? All that frosting means you'll need to click your shocks to "SOFT"...

Don't forget to vote...

BTW...I'm truly honored to be accepted as a part of the HouZe. It has a long and storied history, much of it preceding my "arrival" at the front door. So thanks, Number 3, and thanks to the ShnOman, too...for ALL he's done.

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[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

You're on, but I am not Mitt. Our wager is 25 Cents for bragging rights

You may already be out one solid 1/4... didn't they start with an LS9 in their black car?

... although I've never seen them turn on the A/C

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

You may already be out one solid 1/4... didn't they start with an LS9 in their black car?

... although I've never seen them turn on the A/C

Yep.

[LOWDOWN]

Speed and Performance.

Hennesey.

LPE.

Fesler-Moss.

ALL have integrated the LS9...ain't technology a wonderful thing?!

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

Yep.

Looks like the LS3 & LS7 uses the same ecm, and I would be shocked if the 6cyl cars use a different bcm..... hmmmm

Someone give me a 1LS and a LS7, I wanna try something

[Mr Twisty]

I know speedster is having problems because he's trying to integrate an ecm from Roswell Technology Corp

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

Someone give me a 1LS and a LS7, I wanna try something

Kinda like the COPO recipe...

[LOWDOWN]

Originally Posted by MisterCamaro69

I know speedster is having problems because he's trying to integrate an ecm from Roswell Technology Corp

Yeah his program is "interesting", much like the creator...but one super-duper guy.

He was just about the first, and all on his own... We talked with him, summer -'09, when the "other" project was "forming"...

[JusticePete]

I am not sure of all the details, but GMPP crate motors are by design not compatible with the OEM wiring and BCM. I think it is an EPA thing. Those that do the conversion have tow options. One would be a black box / wiring harness solution. The other is to use different gauges i.e. Autometer. Perhaps #3 can weigh with more specific information.

[LOWDOWN]

Correct, Pete. "Liability issues" has always been raised as the "defense"...but that's exactly where the "cold pizza 'n warm beer" comes into play.

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Kinda like the COPO recipe...

The recipe from 1969 I presume?

Originally Posted by JusticePete

I am not sure of all the details, but GMPP crate motors are by design not compatible with the OEM wiring and BCM. I think it is an EPA thing. Those that do the conversion have tow options. One would be a black box / wiring harness solution. The other is to use different gauges i.e. Autometer. Perhaps #3 can weigh with more specific information.

That makes sense, but I wonder why the production motors wouldn't be epa approved just because they're crated... still the same motor.

[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Congratulations on the 8000th post in the house.

Did you imagine you'd be saying that when you started it?

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