RX CATCH CAN & BREATHER CAP PROBLEM - CAUSED OIL LEAK - BEWARE *HELP*

[Whitehambone]

Originally Posted by blackknight

whitehambone, i would still get the seal checked out regardless if it is damaged or not. Obviously something was wrong if it was leaking oil...

Good luck!

Easier said than done, would have to drop the trans. Maybe I can rent a snake camera and work it through the vents at the bottom of the trans. Anyone know how much room there is between the flywheel and engine block?

[Whitehambone]

Originally Posted by toesuf94

I have to say: Threads like this are why I love owning a Camaro. Not one person in over 50 return posts has been rude or unhelpful. Everyone is trying to help the OP in figuring out why his engine did what it did.

Kudos to everyone on this thread for working this one out. I am following as I am installing a RX cc this week in the same location that the OP is citing his is located.

I will second that. I really do appreciate the help from everyone. I also would not want this to happen to someone else. Maybe mine was just some fluke, everyone else seem to have no problems.

[ddunerider]

Originally Posted by toesuf94

I have to say: Threads like this are why I love owning a Camaro. Not one person in over 50 return posts has been rude or unhelpful. Everyone is trying to help the OP in figuring out why his engine did what it did.

Kudos to everyone on this thread for working this one out. I am following as I am installing a RX cc this week in the same location that the OP is citing his is located.

...I have come accross one person that told me I was a stupid and would trust anything I said..So I know were your comming from...I too have a RX catch can ....so one question for me is that .When I first installed my catch can I would get som oil in it.But once I change oil brands it does not get anymore oil??......I hope you find out what happen to yours.

[DandD]

Whitehambone, I'm not sure if this will help you or not, but here is a pic of the area you are talking about accessing, as you can see there really isn't much room there. This shot was taken just after the new flywheel was installed. I am following tis thread as I will be installing the RX CC within the next few weeks.

[Whitehambone]

Originally Posted by DandD

Whitehambone, I'm not sure if this will help you or not, but here is a pic of the area you are talking about accessing, as you can see there really isn't much room there. This shot was taken just after the new flywheel was installed. I am following tis thread as I will be installing the RX CC within the next few weeks.

Wow that is tight, thanks for the picture. Do you remember when you put the flywheel on, could you get your fingers behind the flywheel?

[DandD]

I didn't put the flywheel on, that pic is from Livernois. I did get in there and see the car while they were doing the job and man there is very little room as the flywheel is basically bolted to the end of the crank so I'd say no there probably isn't enough room to get a finger in there. Thats why replacing a rear main seal is so damned expensive, the seal doesn't cost much it's all labor getting to it. I know thats probably not what you wanted to hear, just trying to help.

Dan

[BigCarrot]

This thread has me a bit scared now... Gunna keep an eye on this. I know when my car is cold I never get on it because you can just feel like the car is building pressure when I go over 2K. Im talking about when the car just started after sitting overnight and outside temps are around 50 degress or lower. I always wait for oil temp to get up to normal operating temps before I go nuts on the throttle.

Will keep an eye on this thread and good luck on pin pointing the problem OP.

[SC2150]

It appears the hoses are routed backwards (this is the first I heard of the issue...no contact from the OP).

The outer valve of the can runs to the vacuum nipple on the pssenger side of the intake maniflod snout and the valley cover fitting runs to the center valve on the can.

The pictures show it connecting to the passenger side valve cover and that should be capped when using the breather kit.

So that explains all your seeing/smelling.

There is no way for the crankcase to evacuate when not routed correctly.


The other thing (as the pictures dont show) is we find a high percentage accidently open the drain valve. he drain valve is CLOSED when the thrreads are all the way exposed and extended, and open when the threads are retraceted and not all visable.

So this is an easy solution.

I am always available to walk anyone through an install or troubleshoot. Simply call direct: 727-422-0076.

[SC2150]

Originally Posted by ddunerider

...I have come accross one person that told me I was a stupid and would trust anything I said..So I know were your comming from...I too have a RX catch can ....so one question for me is that .When I first installed my catch can I would get som oil in it.But once I change oil brands it does not get anymore oil??......I hope you find out what happen to yours.

If your NOT catching oil most likely the drain valve is open and was not closed after you emptied it. That is the most common issue we find.

Thanks to all that have helpped the OP and others with questions.

The RX can have integrated flow controlling check-valves to regulated the flow and prevent back-flow back into the IM. They may make a slight buzz sound (that indicates it is working) but should not be loud. If the drain is left open it will clatter loudly as it is trying to deal with the vacuum leak.

Also, remember the quickest way to get help is usually to contact me directly.....I am usually available to help.

[Whitehambone]

Originally Posted by SC2150

It appears the hoses are routed backwards (this is the first I heard of the issue...no contact from the OP).

The center of the can runs to the vacuum nipple on the pssenger side of the intake maniflod snout and the valley cover fitting runs to the outer valve on the can.

The pictures show it connecting to the passenger side valve cover and that should be capped when using the breather kit.

So that explains all your seeing/smelling.

There is no way for the crankcase to evacuate when not routed correctly.


The other thing (as the pictures dont show) is we find a high percentage accidently open the drain valve. he drain valve is CLOSED when the thrreads are all the way exposed and extended, and open when the threads are retraceted and not all visable.

So this is an easy solution.

I am always available to walk anyone through an install or troubleshoot. Simply call direct: 727-422-0076.

Please look at the pictures again. The one is sideways. The valley cover is the lower metal fitting and it is routed to the center of the can (line without blue tape). The line with the blue tape is attached to the intake, black plastic fitting next to the TB. The passengers side valve cover is plugged. Should I take better picture to video?

[DandD]

Thats what I was afraid of, I just didn't want to post what others already had. So basically this motor has been building up this pressure since the install, and finally the weakest link (apparently the rear main seal) gave up the ghost. If that is the case it sure does say something for how well built these engines really are.

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by Whitehambone

Please look at the pictures again. The one is sideways. The valley cover is the lower metal fitting and it is routed to the center of the can (line without blue tape). The line with the blue tape is attached to the intake, black plastic fitting next to the TB. The passengers side valve cover is plugged. Should I take better picture to video?

A video probably wouldn't hurt.

[eggydoo]

Originally Posted by RANGERGOD

MY Rx Catch Can should be in the mail, I ordered it over a week ago. I ran a Billet Tech CC on my Charger for a few years so unless it is vastly different, I doubt a catch can is the problem.

Same here...buddy of mine use to make them out of Coke cans and a few items from home depot and never had issues

I have the billet one from my G8 that I put in my Camaro. No issues.

[DandD]

Thats exactly what Tracey is saying Whitehambone, The valley cover line does not go to the center of the can, the intake manifold line does, the lines are reversed from what you are saying.