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IROCanSS · 03-19-2012, 08:46 AM

LATEST MOD UPDATE:

So I installed the APEX scoop and WWF bottle relocation kit...

Fairly easy. Easiest thing to do it to remove the driver front tire and the inner fender lining. The bottle is right there. I also had to remove my RotoFab so I could drill into the shield to mount the fill. It took a while to get in done, maybe 2 hours. You have to cut the a piece of the inner bumper out of the way so air actually gets into the scoop. All in all, easy job. You COULD remove the front facia but the only benefit I see to that is the one bolt which you can totally get without removing it. I noticed no difference with this but maybe the dyno will so a HP or two

Maybe the throttle responce is better

In the end, it can't hurt right?

I also installed the BMR strut bar...

HOLY CRAP... so now the front of the car is SUPER tight. I for sure notice a difference. The car basically now has ZERO play in it. Very little input to the steering wheel and it goes that way. I took a 90 degree bend at about 35 or 40 and it did oversteer a bit but I was cookin for the corner. It will take some getting used to but I will say, the back roads will be a tad more fun. Weakest link now... absolutely, the tires. :( Once I smoke these tires, I think I am going to look into either a set of rears for the front so I can run 275s all around (which will allow me to rotate and hopefully save some tire life) or look into getting the fronts widenend, putting the 275s up front and putting the widened wheels with 305s out back...

have to weigh the costs. The aftermarket wheels I like dont like my budget. The cheap ones... yuck.

velociSSimo · 03-19-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

LATEST MOD UPDATE:

So I installed the APEX scoop and WWF bottle relocation kit...

Fairly easy. Easiest thing to do it to remove the driver front tire and the inner fender lining. The bottle is right there. I also had to remove my RotoFab so I could drill into the shield to mount the fill. It took a while to get in done, maybe 2 hours. You have to cut the a piece of the inner bumper out of the way so air actually gets into the scoop. All in all, easy job. You COULD remove the front facia but the only benefit I see to that is the one bolt which you can totally get without removing it. I noticed no difference with this but maybe the dyno will so a HP or two

Maybe the throttle responce is better

In the end, it can't hurt right?

I also installed the BMR strut bar...

HOLY CRAP... so now the front of the car is SUPER tight. I for sure notice a difference. The car basically now has ZERO play in it. Very little input to the steering wheel and it goes that way. I took a 90 degree bend at about 35 or 40 and it did oversteer a bit but I was cookin for the corner. It will take some getting used to but I will say, the back roads will be a tad more fun. Weakest link now... absolutely, the tires. :( Once I smoke these tires, I think I am going to look into either a set of rears for the front so I can run 275s all around (which will allow me to rotate and hopefully save some tire life) or look into getting the fronts widenend, putting the 275s up front and putting the widened wheels with 305s out back...

have to weigh the costs. The aftermarket wheels I like dont like my budget. The cheap ones... yuck.

I went with the Roto-Fab washer bottle relocate which made it a bit easier on my install. I did the same as you (removed tire and lining). I think I feel better throttle reponse, but hard to tell. But, like you said, it can't hurt!

I was going to do the strut bar, but I've read conflicting opinions on it. BMR/Pfadt sell one, Pedders says you don't need it? I'm wondering if it makes it too tight? Sounds like you are digging it though! So maybe I'll end up trying one down the road.

IROCanSS · 03-19-2012, 09:34 AM

You can drive mine and see what you think...

nak3dsnake · 03-19-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by velociSSimo

I went with the Roto-Fab washer bottle relocate which made it a bit easier on my install. I did the same as you (removed tire and lining). I think I feel better throttle reponse, but hard to tell. But, like you said, it can't hurt!

I was going to do the strut bar, but I've read conflicting opinions on it. BMR/Pfadt sell one, Pedders says you don't need it? I'm wondering if it makes it too tight? Sounds like you are digging it though! So maybe I'll end up trying one down the road.

People say the car doesn't need one because the body is very rigid. But there is still some deflection between the strut towers, there will always be. I'll be getting one, just havent decided which one. I'm looking at the BMR 2 point like Jason's. Its for the V8 so it needs very minor modification. The V6 one just looks silly.

IROCanSS · 03-19-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nak3dsnake

People say the car doesn't need one because the body is very rigid. But there is still some deflection between the strut towers, there will always be. I'll be getting one, just havent decided which one. I'm looking at the BMR 2 point like Jason's. Its for the V8 so it needs very minor modification. The V6 one just looks silly.

I agree, the car is SUPER rigid but there is play... correct, there HAS TO be. I don't care how strong the structure is, there will be play. Not with the bar. Now, does it make it too tight... that is subjective.

Next purchase will be solid motor mounts. Waiting on someone besides Pfadt to make a cost effective one. $300+ is silly.

nak3dsnake · 03-19-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by IROCanSS

I agree, the car is SUPER rigid but there is play... correct, there HAS TO be. I don't care how strong the structure is, there will be play. Not with the bar. Now, does it make it too tight... that is subjective.

Next purchase will be solid motor mounts. Waiting on someone besides Pfadt to make a cost effective one. $300+ is silly.

I saw those too and lol'd at the price they want. There's a kit to fit the new OEM convertible bars to the old style towers but that kit looks like it may do more damage than help. And I don't feel like its worth the time and effort to do something like that myself to make it functional structurally and not just adapters to bolt the thing on.

velociSSimo · 03-19-2012, 10:47 AM

I have a new set of drums and pads, 2007-2011 rear drum brake for the Chevy (AAM) 8.6 ½ ton truck. If anyone is intersted let me know, I can make you a good deal.

anythingfast · 03-19-2012, 01:05 PM

Hi all, just joined up from Ravenna area

velociSSimo · 03-19-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by anythingfast

Hi all, just joined up from Ravenna area

Welcome!

mpgsux · 03-19-2012, 01:26 PM

Hey everyone. I've been registered here for awhile, but getting the car out of storage over the weekend got me back on the site!

velociSSimo · 03-19-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mpgsux

Hey everyone. I've been registered here for awhile, but getting the car out of storage over the weekend got me back on the site!

Welcome to you also!

wwddnnone · 03-19-2012, 03:50 PM

Welcome to all the new faces!

On the subject of the tower brace. Mine came with the factory installed one. Since I put the suspension and sways on I have yet to get the front of the car to push, but the back can be very tail happy when wanted.

cntryman77 · 03-19-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by velociSSimo

How was the Canton get together? I talked to Morgan yesterday and he mentioned it. I had forgot about it, plus I was tied up.

it was a good time & good food...plus the weather stayed nice...the car has been clean for 3 days in a row...that must be a record...lol

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Originally Posted by anythingfast

Hi all, just joined up from Ravenna area

welcome anything...you have to join us for some events...I was just out your way Saturday for lunch at A&W

anythingfast · 03-19-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cntryman77

it was a good time & good food...plus the weather stayed nice...the car has been clean for 3 days in a row...that must be a record...lol

welcome anything...you have to join us for some events...I was just out your way Saturday for lunch at A&W

thanks, looking forward to meeting some people and getting out to events

03-19-2012, 10:47 AM	#9611
velociSSimo ... well, not yet. Drives: 2012 Chevy Silverado ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,213	I have a new set of drums and pads, 2007-2011 rear drum brake for the Chevy (AAM) 8.6 ½ ton truck. If anyone is intersted let me know, I can make you a good deal. __________________ 1988 Wellcraft St. Tropez / 32' Length / Twin 454ci Last edited by velociSSimo; 03-19-2012 at 01:07 PM.

03-19-2012, 03:50 PM	#9616
wwddnnone Ur G'nna feel a pinch Drives: 2011 SS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: North Lewisburg Posts: 244 View My Garage	Welcome to all the new faces! On the subject of the tower brace. Mine came with the factory installed one. Since I put the suspension and sways on I have yet to get the front of the car to push, but the back can be very tail happy when wanted. __________________

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03-19-2012, 08:46 AM	#9605
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	LATEST MOD UPDATE: So I installed the APEX scoop and WWF bottle relocation kit... Fairly easy. Easiest thing to do it to remove the driver front tire and the inner fender lining. The bottle is right there. I also had to remove my RotoFab so I could drill into the shield to mount the fill. It took a while to get in done, maybe 2 hours. You have to cut the a piece of the inner bumper out of the way so air actually gets into the scoop. All in all, easy job. You COULD remove the front facia but the only benefit I see to that is the one bolt which you can totally get without removing it. I noticed no difference with this but maybe the dyno will so a HP or two Maybe the throttle responce is better In the end, it can't hurt right? I also installed the BMR strut bar... HOLY CRAP... so now the front of the car is SUPER tight. I for sure notice a difference. The car basically now has ZERO play in it. Very little input to the steering wheel and it goes that way. I took a 90 degree bend at about 35 or 40 and it did oversteer a bit but I was cookin for the corner. It will take some getting used to but I will say, the back roads will be a tad more fun. Weakest link now... absolutely, the tires. :( Once I smoke these tires, I think I am going to look into either a set of rears for the front so I can run 275s all around (which will allow me to rotate and hopefully save some tire life) or look into getting the fronts widenend, putting the 275s up front and putting the widened wheels with 305s out back... have to weigh the costs. The aftermarket wheels I like dont like my budget. The cheap ones... yuck.

03-19-2012, 09:34 AM	#9607
IROCanSS Account Suspended Drives: 89 IROC 350 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Back roads, southern Ohio Posts: 12,504 View My Garage	You can drive mine and see what you think...

03-19-2012, 01:05 PM	#9612
anythingfast Drives: 2012 1ss Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ravenna OH Posts: 60	Hi all, just joined up from Ravenna area

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mpgsux Drives: 2010 VR 2SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 11 View My Garage	Hey everyone. I've been registered here for awhile, but getting the car out of storage over the weekend got me back on the site!