Mustangs................

[Muscle Master]

Originally Posted by levi1922

no, they were not referring to the 4.6 V8, and i have said this about 1000 times, but im sorry, the LS3 is not the best engine in the world. the LTT, is a much better engine in term of technology. Its one of the most advanced available. HOWEVER there were talking about technology that is found inside the car. so basically, sat nav and dual zone aircon, is what they chose over the power. and looks are subjective, so i wont throw those into the mix, i prefer the camaros looks, but they prefer the stang. and its all good.




well, if drag resistance stay constant one you hit 70, my 95 camaro LT had a theoretical top speed of 170. but, its drag limited to about 125...drag is a huge thing, it can make or break a car, and i really doubt the camaro has much less drag

I agree one hundred percent ... love that damn engine

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

Because i have been in my idiot friends mustang @ 165mph. and heard countless stories of speeds past 160... the air doesnt just stop the car at 151.

Yeah I can bury the speedometer of my car too, and I have done it many times, but I am also at 314 rwhp. I live in Germany so I can do this legally and often....

I have nearly an extra 50 rwhp over a stock 05-09 Mustang GT, and when I take my car to this range I would find it hard to believe that even I achieved 165mph with the extra power...but you and I both know the speedometer ends at about 150mph.....so maybe I actually have been up to 165 mph or beyond and I just didn't realize...but again I am not stock. I am assuming you had GPS or some kind of navigation to measure 165mph

I guess it is just hard to believe given the drag coefficient of 0.38 and only 300bhp....I think I'd have to see it personally.

EDIT: However, I will admit that I am more convinced by real world evidence than magazines, because I hate magazine racing and taking car mags as the gospel.

[Georgie]

ive been over 150 in a stock car

[ArcAngel]

Originally Posted by fdjizm

you cant push a gt with stock internals to 700hp, cobra's on the other hand are built for it.

i know you cant but thats what he was talking about

[Georgie]

Originally Posted by truth411

The LS3 has more hp/tq and is even more fuel efficient in a heavier car. Also is is faaaaaaaar easier and cheaper to mod, a $600 cam will give the LS3 well over 500hp. for the 4.6 mod motor to even remotely touch 500hp you would need a $7000 BLOWER!!! So again what is the point of technology (4.6 SOHC V8) that offer 0 benefits I.E. less power, less torque, less fuel efficient and more expensive to modify if you are seeking big hp?

i assume you mean a cam and LTs... thats not street legal, at least in the places i live. from what i remember, a hot rod cam, LTs and tune (you would need to tune the LS as well) would see similar "net gains" on the mustang's 4.6.

i did followup in the thread and hard numbers haven't been released; we are all hoping for about 550whp

[ArcAngel]

Originally Posted by Georgie

i assume you mean a cam and LTs... thats not street legal, at least in the places i live. from what i remember, a hot rod cam, LTs and tune (you would need to tune the LS as well) would see similar gains on the mustang's 4.6. an interesting point is that w/ a supercharger the 4.6 can gain upwards of 250 HP at the crank. from what we've seen so far with the mangunson, the net gain is subtantially less for the LS, but i haven't followed up recently.

OOOOOOH SNAP!!!!

[Tactical Z]

Hmm, I dunno...the 2010 Mustang is nice...but the 2010 Camaro is sexy...

May I has one of each for a month to test?

[ArcAngel]

Originally Posted by Tactical Z

Hmm, I dunno...the 2010 Mustang is nice...but the 2010 Camaro is sexy...

May I has one of each for a month to test?

yea wouldnt that be nice!

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by Rock36

Very much so....

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ang_gt_feature

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/re...umentid=987644

the first article says 147 mph drag limited
the last one says 151 mph drag limited

Oh crap! I guess my car didn't get the memo.

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Oh crap! I guess my car didn't get the memo.

Dude, that's because instead of the memo, they gave your car another 200bhp to start out with

[levi1922]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

Oh crap! I guess my car didn't get the memo.

or maybe your car got the GT500 badge instead....

[MontyCarlo]

"Drag limited to 150 mph" would really vary with things like wind, barometric pressure, road grip, probably even humidity. There's nothing too surprising about a +/-20 range.

[garagelogic]

Originally Posted by Rock36

Dude, that's because instead of the memo, they gave your car another 200bhp to start out with

It was still electronically limited to 155 from the factory.

[Rock36]

Originally Posted by garagelogic

It was still electronically limited to 155 from the factory.

I realize that, but I was only talking about the GT not the GT500 and its extra 200 bhp to muscle through the air resistance; once you clear the electronic limiter with a SCT or Predator tuner.

This is a really a useless point anyway.

The original point is that the Mustang is not redline limited.....whether it is drag limited at 147 mph, 151 mph, or 165 mph....a stock or near stock Mustang GT just doesn't have the power to carry it to 6000 rpm in 5th gear.