2010 Camaro a goner. Camaro5 member loses his Camaro to crash

[PieNsky]

Originally Posted by snsdiver72

I am and have been a Deputy Sheriff here in Texas for 12 years and I can tell that by some of the comments that most do not know the first thing it is about or what it is to be a "cop". Most agencies only see maybe 3 to 10 percent of fines paid from tickets, the rest goes back to the city or county to pay for city or county employees. Do not say you know what it takes to be a cop because of a friend who is one or you talked to one once. Until you wear the boots or shoes of a cop you will never understand. And I second the fact that those who say they hate cops, probably are the ones that merely got caught in the act of something they should not have been doing in the first place. Someone also made the comment that they know how to drive, but once an accident happens they are usually the first to deny any wrong doing on their own part, same with speeders, when we stop them they claim no knowledge of their speeding. It is human nature to lie to cops.

You may be able to answer this, as you are a cop. Why are so many small town cops p ricks?

[nosfanatic2006]

Hi. I apologize in advance, I am probably a "1 post wonder". I love Camaro's to death, but I've always wanted a mustang (flame on). I was turned on to this thread from my Toyota forum. I just couldn't resist posting my opinions though. Maybe I'm bored, or maybe I really feel kinda strongly about this.

1. To the OP, nothing you say is consistent. And even supposed photos of the "pick up" of your car are not proof that it is you; refer to the fact that you can take any photo and claim it as yours. But from reading all 14 pages, and seeing how often you change what you say, and your grammar, and the lack of details, I find it extremely hard to believe that this really is your car and your story. I also find it extremely hard to believe that you are 32 (look at your grammar man!). Short of meeting you in person, I don't believe you at all.

2. To people claiming experience is the key to a good driver: while everyone has made a good point in saying that "experience" is what makes a good driver, I don't believe this is true. No one has pointed out anything about being aware of your surroundings and the happenings of other drivers. You could be fresh behind the wheel, but if your careful and aware of whats going on you shouldn't have any problem. SO many accidents happen because someone is talking on their cell, texting, picking up a dropped pack of cigarettes, etc. They take their eyes off the road for that one second, and for that one second they aren't aware of whats going on around them. Sure experience is a big part of driving, but awareness is just as important. If your aware of whats going on around you, and something does happen, experience has the ability to save you from a possible accident. It all starts from being aware of whats going on around you though, checking your mirrors, looking around, using your eyes, etc. Don't think experience is the only key roll in driving.

3. To the people hating on police: I completely agree that the number of people who hate cops are the ones who get in trouble the most; or who atleast break the law the most. When I get pulled over for speeding or whatever, yeah I'm pissed and wish he hadn't been there and caught me, but when you think about it, there are LAWS out there saying your not supposed to be doing that. If you are breaking those laws, you have every right to get caught. I WISH I had gotten caught doing all the stupid things I did when I was younger, I deserve it for doing them. You can't rant about kids not obeying their parents rules, then complain about cops because you don't follow the rules yourselves. You are a hypocrit. The government is your "parent" persay, when you speed you are just like the 16 year old kid who disobeys his/her parents. There is no difference between you two except for physical age. In my eyes, your both speeding, your both breaking the law, your both the same MENTAL age. This goes for any law or rule. They are created for a reason, whether you agree with them or not, they are there and should be followed. If you think they should be changed, then you get your ass into a position where you can actually do something about it. But I'm sure once your there, you will have seen enough examples and tests done to sway your opinion and you will agree with them rather than disagree.

4. I'm only 21 so I don't claim to have years of wisdom. But I do feel that I have matured more than most people my age. I grew up only playing racing video games. Speed is my love. I love the rush, I love the feeling, I love everything about it. When I was 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and even now, I did/do insanely stupid things!!! When I look back on what I did a couple years ago, I can't believe it was me actually doing them. I did stuff when I was 16 that I wouldn't even do on a closed track now. Most of the stuff was just plain stupid, no matter where I was or how careful I was. I'm sure I still do tons of stupid things to this day, and that in a few years I will again look back at myself and wonder why I did them, but right now I think I'm fine. Life is all about learning, you never stop. Even if your 150 years old, when your 160 years old, you'll think some of the things you did 10 years prior were stupid. Our minds constantly change and grow, every day you learn things that change your opinions, beliefs, morals, standards, whatever. There is no perfect stage where your completely even minded. Just sit and think about things, other than what car you want or what you want to do in it, but think about how you've grown. Think about the stuff you did when you were younger and how, now, when you see kids doing the exact same thing at the same age you were, you now think they are stupid and immature. If people would just realize some of these things we would be so much better off and teenage drivers would be more mature and responsible. You CAN be mature, and follow rules, and still have a flippin blast with life!!! Just challenge your brain a bit for once and learn of legal and safe ways to enjoy your life. Think about stuff, think about how you'll think about it in the future, and if you think you'll regret it, don't do it! Its simple if you just try.

Sorry for such a long posting but you guys hit one of my nerves where I just go off . Moderators feel free to delete my account if you wish. I will check in to see where this thread goes, I'm eager to see what else this guy changes in his story

[Doc]

Too many people, especially teenagers think a good or skilled driver means being able to drive fast; that couldn't be any further from the truth. Just because you can mash a gas pedal to the floor with your foot doesn't make you a "good" driver; any knucklehead can do that. Just because you can weave around cars going faster than they are doesn't make you a good driver either.

Being a good, skilled driver begins with your mental attitude. It's not just understanding what your machine can do, or what you can and can't do with it. It's understanding WHEN, where and why you raise or decrease the performance level. Even on a racetrack, even though you're trying to win the race or your class, there are still "rules of the road" which race drivers obey.

"Good" drivers; genuine good drivers use good judgement and wisdom ALL THE TIME to avoid collisions and there's no way to count the innumerable times a good driver has prevented a collision because THEY were paying attention while some other idiot wasn't. But the idiot gets to drive home in safety too because the good driver made it possible.

That's the difference between a genuine good driver and everybody else; the good drivers are paying attention and know what to do and when. Being a good driver is about wisdom and choice; not just going fast.

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by snsdiver72

I am and have been a Deputy Sheriff here in Texas for 12 years and I can tell that by some of the comments that most do not know the first thing it is about or what it is to be a "cop". Most agencies only see maybe 3 to 10 percent of fines paid from tickets, the rest goes back to the city or county to pay for city or county employees. Do not say you know what it takes to be a cop because of a friend who is one or you talked to one once. Until you wear the boots or shoes of a cop you will never understand. And I second the fact that those who say they hate cops, probably are the ones that merely got caught in the act of something they should not have been doing in the first place. Someone also made the comment that they know how to drive, but once an accident happens they are usually the first to deny any wrong doing on their own part, same with speeders, when we stop them they claim no knowledge of their speeding. It is human nature to lie to cops.

Goodluck over there I have a brother in the USMC in Afgan & I'm an ex Army Ranger so my god be with you & make it home safe.

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by nosfanatic2006

Hi. I apologize in advance, I am probably a "1 post wonder". I love Camaro's to death, but I've always wanted a mustang (flame on). I was turned on to this thread from my Toyota forum. I just couldn't resist posting my opinions though. Maybe I'm bored, or maybe I really feel kinda strongly about this.

1. To the OP, nothing you say is consistent. And even supposed photos of the "pick up" of your car are not proof that it is you; refer to the fact that you can take any photo and claim it as yours. But from reading all 14 pages, and seeing how often you change what you say, and your grammar, and the lack of details, I find it extremely hard to believe that this really is your car and your story. I also find it extremely hard to believe that you are 32 (look at your grammar man!). Short of meeting you in person, I don't believe you at all.

2. To people claiming experience is the key to a good driver: while everyone has made a good point in saying that "experience" is what makes a good driver, I don't believe this is true. No one has pointed out anything about being aware of your surroundings and the happenings of other drivers. You could be fresh behind the wheel, but if your careful and aware of whats going on you shouldn't have any problem. SO many accidents happen because someone is talking on their cell, texting, picking up a dropped pack of cigarettes, etc. They take their eyes off the road for that one second, and for that one second they aren't aware of whats going on around them. Sure experience is a big part of driving, but awareness is just as important. If your aware of whats going on around you, and something does happen, experience has the ability to save you from a possible accident. It all starts from being aware of whats going on around you though, checking your mirrors, looking around, using your eyes, etc. Don't think experience is the only key roll in driving.

3. To the people hating on police: I completely agree that the number of people who hate cops are the ones who get in trouble the most; or who atleast break the law the most. When I get pulled over for speeding or whatever, yeah I'm pissed and wish he hadn't been there and caught me, but when you think about it, there are LAWS out there saying your not supposed to be doing that. If you are breaking those laws, you have every right to get caught. I WISH I had gotten caught doing all the stupid things I did when I was younger, I deserve it for doing them. You can't rant about kids not obeying their parents rules, then complain about cops because you don't follow the rules yourselves. You are a hypocrit. The government is your "parent" persay, when you speed you are just like the 16 year old kid who disobeys his/her parents. There is no difference between you two except for physical age. In my eyes, your both speeding, your both breaking the law, your both the same MENTAL age. This goes for any law or rule. They are created for a reason, whether you agree with them or not, they are there and should be followed. If you think they should be changed, then you get your ass into a position where you can actually do something about it. But I'm sure once your there, you will have seen enough examples and tests done to sway your opinion and you will agree with them rather than disagree.

4. I'm only 21 so I don't claim to have years of wisdom. But I do feel that I have matured more than most people my age. I grew up only playing racing video games. Speed is my love. I love the rush, I love the feeling, I love everything about it. When I was 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, and even now, I did/do insanely stupid things!!! When I look back on what I did a couple years ago, I can't believe it was me actually doing them. I did stuff when I was 16 that I wouldn't even do on a closed track now. Most of the stuff was just plain stupid, no matter where I was or how careful I was. I'm sure I still do tons of stupid things to this day, and that in a few years I will again look back at myself and wonder why I did them, but right now I think I'm fine. Life is all about learning, you never stop. Even if your 150 years old, when your 160 years old, you'll think some of the things you did 10 years prior were stupid. Our minds constantly change and grow, every day you learn things that change your opinions, beliefs, morals, standards, whatever. There is no perfect stage where your completely even minded. Just sit and think about things, other than what car you want or what you want to do in it, but think about how you've grown. Think about the stuff you did when you were younger and how, now, when you see kids doing the exact same thing at the same age you were, you now think they are stupid and immature. If people would just realize some of these things we would be so much better off and teenage drivers would be more mature and responsible. You CAN be mature, and follow rules, and still have a flippin blast with life!!! Just challenge your brain a bit for once and learn of legal and safe ways to enjoy your life. Think about stuff, think about how you'll think about it in the future, and if you think you'll regret it, don't do it! Its simple if you just try.

Sorry for such a long posting but you guys hit one of my nerves where I just go off . Moderators feel free to delete my account if you wish. I will check in to see where this thread goes, I'm eager to see what else this guy changes in his story

Read the story, what I changed & notice the sarcastic changes & remarks.

[Stone Cold TBSS]

Im not trying to stir up anymore stuff but Dertybr, where you the one that bought his Black Camaro out from under a guy that had already made a deposit?

Again, im not saying its you im just asking. There was a fairly wealthy individual that bought out a Black 2SS/RS out from under a guy simply because he had money to do so. And it was from Graves. Im hoping thats not you, but if it is(And you admit it) than ill tell you where you can(And hopefully will) go.

Again...not saying it is you....just trying to get something straight.

[djsnoflake]

Hey if anyone wants to turn their non RS into an RS, I have a feeling you could get a set of HIDs at whatever salvage that thing is going to. OUCHIE

[thor27]

Shit happens, just thank your lucky bow ties you were not injured.............now the kid.........er.....ah..........I'd be hard pressed not to knock his ass out!

[Dertybr]

Originally Posted by Stone Cold TBSS

Im not trying to stir up anymore stuff but Dertybr, where you the one that bought his Black Camaro out from under a guy that had already made a deposit?

Again, im not saying its you im just asking. There was a fairly wealthy individual that bought out a Black 2SS/RS out from under a guy simply because he had money to do so. And it was from Graves. Im hoping thats not you, but if it is(And you admit it) than ill tell you where you can(And hopefully will) go.

Again...not saying it is you....just trying to get something straight.

I dont know about that. All I know is I was call & said there is a camaro here & a guy from Fla was on his way 2 see it 2. It was'nt anyones order but come on if you had the money & I called you & said you can buy 1 a month b4 anyone else...

[Stone Cold TBSS]

Originally Posted by Dertybr

I dont know about that. All I know is I was call & said there is a camaro here & a guy from Fla was on his way 2 see it 2. It was'nt anyones order but come on if you had the money & I called you & said you can buy 1 a month b4 anyone else...

IF he had money on it then no I wouldnt have. But im sure the dealer wouldnt have told you either way because you had the money right then and there. If your saying that this is all you were told then it sounds to me like the Dealer would be at fault for it. But I cant see a dealer backing out of a deal IF there was Binding paperwork. Because if thats the case they will get the piss sued out of them. But there going out of business too....HAHA...so I guess it woudnt matter.

[MontyCarlo]

Originally Posted by Stone Cold TBSS

IF he had money on it then no I wouldnt have. But im sure the dealer wouldnt have told you either way because you had the money right then and there. If your saying that this is all you were told then it sounds to me like the Dealer would be at fault for it. But I cant see a dealer backing out of a deal IF there was Binding paperwork. Because if thats the case they will get the piss sued out of them. But there going out of business too....HAHA...so I guess it woudnt matter.

Some would. We've had a few members here with stories like that. One was told he'd have to pay $8k over the agreed price. Another was told his order was "cancelled," then found out the manager gave it to his son. Both had everything in writing.

[Stone Cold TBSS]

Damn....hopefully they get the piss sued out of them. But with our Judicial System nothing will happen. Id sue and give to charity just to try and prove a point.

[patriotpa]

Sonds like there are some real sterling people involved in this....

[MontyCarlo]

Originally Posted by Stone Cold TBSS

Damn....hopefully they get the piss sued out of them. But with our Judicial System nothing will happen. Id sue and give to charity just to try and prove a point.

The first one (OldTimer) made some phone calls and eventually got his car for the original price, so that one's taken care of. The second guy just ran into trouble in the last few days here, and things are still playing out.