LS3 for Camaro announced at meeting!

[SilverTurtle]

ok, let me try and get this across to y'all in the easiest way I can... just because you are related to your parents does not mean that you are your parents, right? the same can be applied to all generations of small block GM engines.

just because the LS2, LS7, LSA, LS9, L76, L92, L98, LS4, etc. are all on the GenIV architecture does NOT make them the same block... it makes the same block DESIGN... do you seriously want to tell me that the FRONT WHEEL DRIVE LS4 engine has the same block as the dry sump LS7 engine? I highly doubt that, folks... it might LOOK the same, and it might have the same dimensions, but the sleeves are different, the bore is different and the actual short block is NOT the same.

jeebus, its hard to get things across to people who think they know everything.

[Omega94]

Originally Posted by fastball

Hook that 3.4 up to the old 4 speed automatic and see how it feels.

that I can definitely understand

[CaptianSam]

ok... ALL THE FREAKIN BLOCKS ARE CAST FROM THE SAME MOULD...is that easier to understand...the ls4 is excluded btw ...you change dimensions of sleeves and such after to suit your application hence to BORE OUT...or STROKE

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

ok, let me try and get this across to y'all in the easiest way I can... just because you are related to your parents does not mean that you are your parents, right? the same can be applied to all generations of small block GM engines.

jeebus, its hard to get things across to people who think they know everything.

do you know what GENES are... its a chemical make-up in your DNA genome that relates you back to your parents...the only thing that makes you different from your dad is called genetic abiguity... your 99% like your dad so try another analogy..... and some people REALLY do know everything...lol

[SilverTurtle]

Originally Posted by CaptianSam

ok... ALL THE FREAKIN BLOCKS ARE CAST FROM THE SAME MOULD...is that easier to understand...the ls4 is excluded btw ...you change dimensions of sleeves and such after to suit your application hence to BORE OUT...or STROKE


do you know what GENES are... its a chemical make-up in your DNA genome that relates you back to your parents...the only thing that makes you different from your dad is called genetic abiguity... your 99% like your dad so try another analogy..... and some people REALLY do know everything...lol

its a shame you're not in the group that knows everything.

I have a VERY good grasp of genetics and while I am very much like my father, I am NOT my father and you are not YOUR father... if you occupied the same space in the universe that your father did, you WOULD be your father, but since you do not, you are not your father... I have emphasized and italicized the portion of your post that proves that I am right... so lets not get into a discussion about genetics because this is not a forum about that.

and no, they are not cast from the same mold... almost every one of them has a different casting number and, therefore, they are not cast from the same mold otherwise they would have the same casting number... so you, sir, are W-R-O-N-G.

end of story.

[MTron]

Originally Posted by CaptianSam

ok... ALL THE FREAKIN BLOCKS ARE CAST FROM THE SAME MOULD...is that easier to understand...the ls4 is excluded btw ...you change dimensions of sleeves and such after to suit your application hence to BORE OUT...or STROKE


do you know what GENES are... its a chemical make-up in your DNA genome that relates you back to your parents...the only thing that makes you different from your dad is called genetic abiguity... your 99% like your dad so try another analogy..... and some people REALLY do know everything...lol

im not sure if you were trying to be serious or not, but ill just assume you were.....you are not 99% like any of your parents, as far as genomic similarity goes, you get 50% of you genes from ur mom and the other 50 from your dad. So if your were to get a DNA test done, and compare them, you would share exactly 50% of your genetic markers with either of your parents, and on average, siblings are 50% related as well

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by MTron

im not sure if you were trying to be serious or not, but ill just assume you were.....you are not 99% like any of your parents, as far as genomic similarity goes, you get 50% of you genes from ur mom and the other 50 from your dad. So if your were to get a DNA test done, and compare them, you would share exactly 50% of your genetic markers with either of your parents, and on average, siblings are 50% related as well

however, all humans are share over 99% of our DNA. Or something like that. So his statement is technically true.

As far as there being different blocks, I don't know enough about the specific differences to really comment. 3whiterag would be able to clear things up. As a few others would too

[GTAHVIT]

I failed biology....

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by gtahvit

I failed biology....

Why are we talking about biology again? I didn't know cast Aluminum and molds had anything to do with DNA....this isn't an organic engine block people...please for the love of God let this argument die.

[MTron]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

however, all humans are share over 99% of our DNA. Or something like that. So his statement is technically true.

As far as there being different blocks, I don't know enough about the specific differences to really comment. 3whiterag would be able to clear things up. As a few others would too

Not necessarily, saying all humans are 99% the same is the same as saying that all engines are 99% the same, and in that scope they are, all Otto cycle engines are basically 99% the same, they all have pistons, heads, intake ect ect ect, its that 1% diff that makes em unique.

In humans dont be fooled by that 99% similar stuff, thats just for the genome as a whole, ie we all have legs, arms, a head, get affected by the same diseases, our organs are the same, that 1% diff makes up hight, weight speed, strength, colour, all morphology (feature size, ie fingers, feet ect), eye and hair colour, how hairy we are, and what we inherit from out parrents



anyways, why are we talking about genetics on a car forum again.......

i think we can all agree that genetics is a bad analogy for relatedness between LS series engines......let us consult Wikipedia for info on that front

[DGthe3]

I'm not sure the analogy is completely invalid. The Gen IV engines all share the same basic 'DNA' that is the engine block. But I think we need to have someone come in who knows all the blocks inside and out tell us if they are the same or not, and say that 'this, that, and the other thing are different between L%$ and L^#, and so no they are not the same'

[Sweeper]

didn't know aluminum had DNA? Wow....you learn something new everyday on this internet thing...

[KILLER74Z28]

[CaptianSam]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I'm not sure the analogy is completely invalid. The Gen IV engines all share the same basic 'DNA' that is the engine block.

bingo

[radz28]

Poindexters... LOL.