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CamaroScotty · 05-14-2009, 10:54 PM

If they are the sales leader, the odds are on our side.

Time will tell - and if someone does close, open orders SHOULD be transferred to another local dealer.

Joe286 · 05-14-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

If they are the sales leader, the odds are on our side.

Time will tell - and if someone does close, open orders SHOULD be transferred to another local dealer.

do you know if we would be notified or would it be up to us to figure all this out?

Augie1978 · 05-14-2009, 11:03 PM

Dudes, I am in a town of 15,000 my Chevy dealer is a good freind. His dad started the dealership like 60 years ago. They spend alot of money sponsorig the little league base ball eams, et. you name it. Our local Chevy dealer is absolutley apple pie in our community. We cannot do without it.

FAF · 05-14-2009, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

If they are the sales leader, the odds are on our side.

Time will tell - and if someone does close, open orders SHOULD be transferred to another local dealer.

The problem I see with that is that the way GM dealers are in the area of Houton ,TX they would take the transferred order and sell it for over MSRP,
Before respecting the customers.

cam2fst4u · 05-14-2009, 11:43 PM

*fingers crossed*

Toons · 05-15-2009, 01:41 AM

Can we nominate dealers for closing?

OUR72GTO · 05-15-2009, 01:51 AM

It's the # of cars they sell, NOT the the # of teams they sponsor!

JMAN311 · 05-15-2009, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Augie1978

Dudes, I am in a town of 15,000 my Chevy dealer is a good freind. His dad started the dealership like 60 years ago. They spend alot of money sponsorig the little league base ball eams, et. you name it. Our local Chevy dealer is absolutley apple pie in our community. We cannot do without it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OUR72GTO

It's the # of cars they sell, NOT the the # of teams they sponsor!

I think the point was that a smaller town that has the only Chevy dealer in the area close causes a larger ripple effect than a dealer being closed in a larger city where there are still 2+ dealers left selling the same brand. Around my area the dealers are scattered like 50+ miles apart. If lots of these smaller dealers close it's going to really hurt the communities cause for 1 there probably aren't any other dealers around for these people to try to get jobs at . And for another customers will have to travel a crazy distance just to get warranty work done on their car.

LnLSS · 05-15-2009, 06:39 AM

"Transfered to another dealer" that would suck to all that have a handshake agreement for MSRP or below and the dealer that it is trasnfered to has a $5k+ mark up.

JSkibisky · 05-15-2009, 06:50 AM

... to add to the point made by "LnLSS"... what happens to the buyers who don't have a simple "handshake" agreement, but have (sometimes substantial) deposits placed down on the car... what happens to the deposit? (probably depends on the dealer, I'm sure... but it's not a great position to be in...)

CTS · 05-15-2009, 07:28 AM

I was just watching this am about GM dealer closing (CNBC I think). Someone who professed to know about GM franchise's says the GM dealer franchise are renewed on an annual basis. GM will just tell those who they don't plant on renewing, sorry. If the franchise renewal date is 3 months away, then they have 3 months. If its 11 months then they have 11 months, etc. So most dealers won't close that fast.

They are saying sales volume is not the sole determining factor. There are many dealers who sell at lot but also have a high customer dissatisfaction score.

According to big dealers they interview many dealers have stopped ordering cars and trucks already. I think a lot also depends on what competition is nearby. If there are other brands close then the GM dealer is safe. But if you are in a area where the GM dealers out number the other brands, then there is to many. Volume does not guarantee survival, customer satisfaction is high on the list.

Rocks RS · 05-15-2009, 07:39 AM

I stopped by my dealer last night and they are nervious becouse they are a small dealer in a small town with bigger dealers around them.

The thing is, they are the "good" guys while the other dealers treat you like meat.

JSkibisky · 05-15-2009, 07:45 AM

... if the information in the dealer thread on GM Insider News is correct, it looks like there are 5 criteria... sales volume, sales and service csi, capitalization (working capital),
location and the dealership's facility (new, updated, etc).

edog · 05-15-2009, 08:24 AM

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/money/051...f_3200_dealers

Here is a link to the Chrysler dealership who will be closing.

05-14-2009, 11:03 PM	#45
Augie1978 Drives: 2011 2SS RS Vert Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 621	Dudes, I am in a town of 15,000 my Chevy dealer is a good freind. His dad started the dealership like 60 years ago. They spend alot of money sponsorig the little league base ball eams, et. you name it. Our local Chevy dealer is absolutley apple pie in our community. We cannot do without it. __________________ 2SS RS, Triple Black Vert, Manual, Hurst Shifter. American Racing Headers, Roto-Fab CAI

05-15-2009, 01:51 AM	#49
OUR72GTO 2010 SIM Beige RS 6M Drives: SIM RS 6M 66 Corvair Silverado LTZ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kamloops,British Columbia Posts: 4,673	It's the # of cars they sell, NOT the the # of teams they sponsor! __________________ CAMARO.. 2010 The Heart Beat is back in CHEVROLET Now let's put it back in America

05-15-2009, 07:28 AM	#53
CTS Drives: 2021 Sierra Denali 6.2L/10sp CC 4WD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houghton, Michigan Posts: 234 View My Garage	I was just watching this am about GM dealer closing (CNBC I think). Someone who professed to know about GM franchise's says the GM dealer franchise are renewed on an annual basis. GM will just tell those who they don't plant on renewing, sorry. If the franchise renewal date is 3 months away, then they have 3 months. If its 11 months then they have 11 months, etc. So most dealers won't close that fast. They are saying sales volume is not the sole determining factor. There are many dealers who sell at lot but also have a high customer dissatisfaction score. According to big dealers they interview many dealers have stopped ordering cars and trucks already. I think a lot also depends on what competition is nearby. If there are other brands close then the GM dealer is safe. But if you are in a area where the GM dealers out number the other brands, then there is to many. Volume does not guarantee survival, customer satisfaction is high on the list. __________________ Mike Synthoil Supply 2021 GMC Sierra Denali CC Ultimate 6.2L Last edited by CTS; 05-15-2009 at 07:44 AM.

05-15-2009, 07:39 AM	#54
Rocks RS Drives: 2010 Camaro 2LT/RS Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cortland Ohio Posts: 779 View My Garage	I stopped by my dealer last night and they are nervious becouse they are a small dealer in a small town with bigger dealers around them. The thing is, they are the "good" guys while the other dealers treat you like meat. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2LT / RS - Black w/IO interior & M6 Sporting MRT V1, Hurst short throw, and Injen long tube and loving it!!! Also, over 125,000 miles and going.

05-15-2009, 08:24 AM	#56
edog Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: F'BURG VA Posts: 3,832 View My Garage	http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/money/051...f_3200_dealers Here is a link to the Chrysler dealership who will be closing. __________________ Update...Build in process, Forged Rods, Pistons and rings, Johnson Lifters, NOVI1500 ECS SC, 13lb boost or more, LS3 Conversion 114/228/241 COMP CAM, Frostbite 4 row Aluminum radiator, 6L80 built, Circle D 6L80 PRO SERIES MULTI 258MM 2D, Stock 3.45 gears, 1-7/8 American Racing Headers w/HF cat, X-Pipe, Lingenfelter dual fuel pump, E-85 flex sensor, ATI super damper pulley, Ported TB, 160 therm, Trans cooler, Pedder's sways/end links/sub frame bushings, BMR trailing arms & toe rods, Coil overs. HP/TQ pending

05-14-2009, 10:54 PM	#43
CamaroScotty Account Suspended Drives: Your new SLP Camaro! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cedarburg, WI Posts: 6,790	If they are the sales leader, the odds are on our side. Time will tell - and if someone does close, open orders SHOULD be transferred to another local dealer.

05-14-2009, 11:43 PM	#47
cam2fst4u Drives: 08 SS trailblazer,08 Silverado Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: stanley va Posts: 6,268 View My Garage	fingers crossed

05-15-2009, 01:41 AM	#48
Toons Speed Racer Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 164	Can we nominate dealers for closing?

05-15-2009, 06:39 AM	#51
LnLSS Mid-Florida Camaro Club Drives: 2015 Red Hot ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Orlando Fla Posts: 2,581 View My Garage	"Transfered to another dealer" that would suck to all that have a handshake agreement for MSRP or below and the dealer that it is trasnfered to has a $5k+ mark up.

05-15-2009, 06:50 AM	#52
JSkibisky Drives: 2010 1LT/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 254	... to add to the point made by "LnLSS"... what happens to the buyers who don't have a simple "handshake" agreement, but have (sometimes substantial) deposits placed down on the car... what happens to the deposit? (probably depends on the dealer, I'm sure... but it's not a great position to be in...)

05-15-2009, 07:45 AM	#55
JSkibisky Drives: 2010 1LT/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 254	... if the information in the dealer thread on GM Insider News is correct, it looks like there are 5 criteria... sales volume, sales and service csi, capitalization (working capital), location and the dealership's facility (new, updated, etc).

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