Someone race 11' 12' gt500 vs zl1 (at strip)

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by Rice Killer

SVT, nope it isn't. It's lighter with more grip. What variable are you wanting to change?

I agree, Road & Tracks CTS-V beat the Shelby, if the ZL1 did not there would be something seriously wrong

[radz28]

I love the 'V, but there's no reason other than driver that it beat the GT500. I don't want this to be a close race, but I believe it would be, and would boil down to the driver in most cases.

We haven't seen an stock runs on DRs or slicks where they've left particularly hard. The one video I've seen on a very fast '500 run was one where the driver left like he was hit by a train. Not even the quickest ZL1 runs have been made really aggressive off the lines. I'm not blaming anyone, either. New cars, new drivetrains, not knowing the cars, etc.

I wanna' see a great driver drive both cars the same night, back-to-back.

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by radz28

I love the 'V, but there's no reason other than driver that it beat the GT500. I don't want this to be a close race, but I believe it would be, and would boil down to the driver in most cases.

We haven't seen an stock runs on DRs or slicks where they've left particularly hard. The one video I've seen on a very fast '500 run was one where the driver left like he was hit by a train. Not even the quickest ZL1 runs have been made really aggressive off the lines. I'm not blaming anyone, either. New cars, new drivetrains, not knowing the cars, etc.

I wanna' see a great driver drive both cars the same night, back-to-back.

Sometimes i don't like that things you put up, but this was one of the most level headed things I've read on this forum in awhile.

I feel the ZL1 will get the 11/12s by a couple clicks in all honesty.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Sometimes i don't like that things you put up, but this was one of the most level headed things I've read on this forum in awhile.

I feel the ZL1 will get the 11/12s by a couple clicks in all honesty.

If all my comments made you comfortable, I'd be worried. I have to keep you Ford-boys on your toes You were one of the Mustang-faithful I was referring to in another thread today - in a positive way

I'd like to think it'd have a tenth or two, but we have the weight issue and the range of chassis dynos' are all over the map.

[Vette TPI]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

It does make one wonder....
GM talked up a lot of simulations stuff but came time to test the ZL1, they wouldn't let it get tested against a GT500. Now the new owners who have gotten their ZL1 who were equally bragful as GM, aren't posting times or challenging a GT500. Too funny.
GT500 guys can't wait to get their new cars on the strip vs whatever, no waiting for bs break in time, yada yada.

Chevrolet actually challenged Ford with the 2013 around the nurburgring track each picks their driver. And Ford ran away with tail tucked between their legs. If I had a ZL1 I'd be hunting for every gt500 I see or hear of. Have you seen how many ZL1 guys have run the 1/4 without a break in procedure? I remember watching the yellow ZL1 with slicks n skinnies running at 200miles on odometer, with a yellow tag still on the interior glove box.

[Topher3134]

Don't care about last yr mustang. Bring on the 2013s. I hope they are both 10.99 cars on slicks!

[radz28]

Originally Posted by Vette TPI

Chevrolet actually challenged Ford with the 2013 around the nurburgring track each picks their driver. And Ford ran away with tail tucked between their legs. If I had a ZL1 I'd be hunting for every gt500 I see or hear of. Have you seen how many ZL1 guys have run the 1/4 without a break in procedure? I remember watching the yellow ZL1 with slicks n skinnies running at 200miles on odometer, with a yellow tag still on the interior glove box.

You know - I don't know that I quite see it that way. It's convenient to look at it that way for myself, however, you just never know. You'd think if they had something, they would've fired right back because they were certainly there to p!$$ all over GM's parade when ZL1 information was released at that time. Personally - I still believe the Snake will have it's hands quite full until it gets to some straights. I still, to this day, believe that Mr. Link didn't quite push ZL1 on the final straight; it seemed like he wasn't going WOT near the end. Maybe he couldn't, I don't know, nor am I questioning his abilities or talents. I just don't think that was the best we could see from ZL1. At the same time, I don't expect a huge improvement even if I were right.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Vette TPI

Chevrolet actually challenged Ford with the 2013 around the nurburgring track each picks their driver. And Ford ran away with tail tucked between their legs. If I had a ZL1 I'd be hunting for every gt500 I see or hear of. Have you seen how many ZL1 guys have run the 1/4 without a break in procedure? I remember watching the yellow ZL1 with slicks n skinnies running at 200miles on odometer, with a yellow tag still on the interior glove box.

Chevrolet challenged the gt500 before it was even done testing. . . you'll see the gt500 post 'ring times. Whether they will be faster or slower than zl1 I do not know, but saying Ford ran away is just dumb. The car is set to release this summer and they challenged them in what, December?

[Vette TPI]

The old supersnake ran this in the 1/4. Most of you will say this WON'T matter, but until you find a equal or better comparison. This is what it is.
P.S. old supersnake had 630ish to wheels.

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Chevrolet challenged the gt500 before it was even done testing. . . you'll see the gt500 post 'ring times. Whether they will be faster or slower than zl1 I do not know, but saying Ford ran away is just dumb. The car is set to release this summer and they challenged them in what, December?

Does it matter when they challenged them?! Ford could have still took the bait and set a time to race the ZL1. It's not dumb to say Ford ran away, it's chicken of them imo.

[ffrcobra_65]

Originally Posted by Vette TPI

Chevrolet actually challenged Ford with the 2013 around the nurburgring track each picks their driver. And Ford ran away with tail tucked between their legs. If I had a ZL1 I'd be hunting for every gt500 I see or hear of. Have you seen how many ZL1 guys have run the 1/4 without a break in procedure? I remember watching the yellow ZL1 with slicks n skinnies running at 200miles on odometer, with a yellow tag still on the interior glove box.

A challenge in winter when the ring was close. Too funny. You believed all the hype. Yes I have seen the few runs and the true stock run done by LPE and all the denials. I have seen the ripped up slips and the supposedly 100% stock runs. Try and run the yellow ZL1 with slicks and skinnies against a current GT500 and I'll bet you m whole garage vs yours, the GT500 with the same mods will eat the ZL1 2 out of 3. Nice talk but time is way overdue to take it vs the car the ZL1 has been supposedly built to destroy. Forget the 2013 GT500, it the ZL1's worse nightmare.

[ffrcobra_65]

There is a new uninformed person who pops up in every GT500 vs ZL1 thread.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

I agree, Road & Tracks CTS-V beat the Shelby, if the ZL1 did not there would be something seriously wrong

I have to agree.

[KKreme15]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

There is a new uninformed person who pops up in every GT500 vs ZL1 thread.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Vette TPI

The old supersnake ran this in the 1/4. Most of you will say this WON'T matter, but until you find a equal or better comparison. This is what it is.
P.S. old supersnake had 630ish to wheels.






Does it matter when they challenged them?! Ford could have still took the bait and set a time to race the ZL1. It's not dumb to say Ford ran away, it's chicken of them imo.

What sense would it make for Ford to take a challenge, with an unfinished car, when they can release a time on their own terms and already have taken away a lot of hype from the competitor. That's just dumb business. If Ford can't top the zl1 time they probably won't release one. If they can, it won't matter if it's in a head-to-head matchup with zl1, they will see the same media response just by posting a faster time. All accepting that challenge would do is minimize the potential reward while increasing risk. It makes ZERO sense for Ford to accept that challenge regardless of how they believe they would do and Chevy knew that.