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lscamaro · 05-02-2012, 08:41 AM

Actually, isn't pt_killa a turbo build? I do know smokes1lt was finished before this one and that one is indeed a supercharger.

And not trying to sound negative but assuming you'll get better times is never a good thing. If the red ipf supercharged car was driven by someone who knew how to run it, chances are they'll get better times since they know how to drive it.

Also, you have a non-rs car so that's not going to help. With a supercharger, the power comes on as soon as you stomp on it. Not like a turbo where it kicks in at over 4000 rpm. If you still have the bf goodrich tires on, good luck.... I spin my tires through first and all I have is an intake and exhaust. With the torque you have, you'll have a heard time keeping them from spinning and launching will be tough too.

GretchenGotGrowl · 05-02-2012, 08:49 AM

PT_Killa has a turbo now, but his first build was a supercharger.

lscamaro · 05-02-2012, 08:58 AM

Ah wasn't aware of that, sorry.

Can't_C_Me · 05-02-2012, 09:37 AM

SC will never beat the brute force of the turbo's when spooling up. And the top end power on the SC kits aren't to great. It goes from all out power to a steady incline of power. Also you can't compare a SC 6psi's to a turbo's 6psi's. If you do please go back to the books because there is no comparison. Either the tune or the car itself is malfunctioning or not set up right on the turbo car. And this is compared using the same type of car. I ran 382rwhp on a bad tune, no Meth, and at 3psi's on my kit. if I was at 6psi's with a good tune OOooo boy lol. O and I signed up like 3 months ago for grudge match's at CFIII for anyone that wants to run.

And I'm glad the IPF kit is finally done, but everyone that wants to go FI has alot of supporting mods. And this will drive many away as they won't tune for modded C5's. If you compare the IPF kit to any similar SC kit and the other kits tune supports mods. That kit will most likely out power IPF but not by much. The key thing here is not many go FI when the rest of the motor is stock.

Ok my rant is over I said I wasn't going to get in this lol!

GretchenGotGrowl · 05-02-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lscamaro

Ah wasn't aware of that, sorry.

No problem, most people don't remember that. Again, I think he deserves some recognition for what he's done on both the SC and Turbo front.

hunterv6 · 05-02-2012, 09:48 AM

ipf supercharger against twins turbos i think i can make the fest after all.

smoke1lt · 05-02-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hunterv6

ipf supercharger against twins turbos i think i can make the fest after all.

How about IPF SC against RX PERFORMANCE SC,I will line mine up against a IPF car

lscamaro · 05-02-2012, 10:18 AM

I would pay to see that..... But since I can't go, if it does happen, someone please have a camcorder there!!!

SC2150 · 05-02-2012, 10:32 AM

All about that Smoke!!

And Gretchen on 5-6 PSI ran a low 12 sec 1/4 mile. Gretchens dyno #'s will be lower than a standard due to the drivetrain loss of a auto vs manual...and gretchen has a stall converter.

KMPrenger · 05-02-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Macrackie

"Required items to race"?
Run it stock on the track. Thats going to be the best way to prove that car. By stock I mean oem tires, wheels, suspension etc... I know what mine does without mods and would like to see only the super charger install on the track. Only thing required for the track then is a helmet.

I like this idea as well. Yes I know that a proper track setup includes drag radials, and proper suspension setup, and nobody in their right mind that is a serious drag racer does it on power alone.

That said, the other IPF car that ran a 13 flat did it on stock tires and suspension and so that was pretty cool. I'd guess with DRs, a 12.8 or lower should be pretty doable. If the LLT IPF powered car is even more powerful, then perhaps mid 12s is doable.

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Originally Posted by lscamaro

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Also, you have a non-rs car so that's not going to help. With a supercharger, the power comes on as soon as you stomp on it. Not like a turbo where it kicks in at over 4000 rpm. If you still have the bf goodrich tires on, good luck.... I spin my tires through first and all I have is an intake and exhaust. With the torque you have, you'll have a heard time keeping them from spinning and launching will be tough too.

It depends on the type of supercharger. A centrifugal SC doesn't have quite the same amount of instant low end TQ that say a screw type SC would have.

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Originally Posted by smoke1lt

How about IPF SC against RX PERFORMANCE SC,I will line mine up against a IPF car

DO IT!! lol. (really wouldn't matter to me who wins...it just sounds like fun)

hunterv6 · 05-02-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by smoke1lt

How about IPF SC against RX PERFORMANCE SC,I will line mine up against a IPF car

that will work too.

SDCamaro10 · 05-02-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by smoke1lt

How about IPF SC against RX PERFORMANCE SC,I will line mine up against a IPF car

DOOO ITTT!

Fr3e4gent · 05-02-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lscamaro

What items do you still need to race? I really hope to see a track day vid! It's exciting to see all these builds.

I love superchargers and their ease of maintenance but i agree with prenger. Turbos are the kings of making power. Just look at cjt's sts setup. Over 400 to the wheels I believe?

Oh and yea, gretchen didn't have any aftermarket injectors or fuel pump, it was just the turbos. Now, his car is something else lol

I need a Snell Certified helmet and a fire coat.

Fr3e4gent · 05-02-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Also, not bashing you, but PT_Killa was the first supercharged LLT. All the designs I've seen have pretty much followed his original design. I'm not suggesting they copied him, but I do think he deserves some credit for what he did.

Fair enough. But I mean from IPF

05-02-2012, 08:41 AM	#57
lscamaro Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,305	Actually, isn't pt_killa a turbo build? I do know smokes1lt was finished before this one and that one is indeed a supercharger. And not trying to sound negative but assuming you'll get better times is never a good thing. If the red ipf supercharged car was driven by someone who knew how to run it, chances are they'll get better times since they know how to drive it. Also, you have a non-rs car so that's not going to help. With a supercharger, the power comes on as soon as you stomp on it. Not like a turbo where it kicks in at over 4000 rpm. If you still have the bf goodrich tires on, good luck.... I spin my tires through first and all I have is an intake and exhaust. With the torque you have, you'll have a heard time keeping them from spinning and launching will be tough too. __________________ Click Picture for Build Thread

05-02-2012, 08:49 AM	#58
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,127 View My Garage	PT_Killa has a turbo now, but his first build was a supercharger. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

05-02-2012, 08:58 AM	#59
lscamaro Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,305	Ah wasn't aware of that, sorry. __________________ Click Picture for Build Thread

05-02-2012, 09:37 AM	#60
Can't_C_Me Don't Sleep on My V6 Drives: 2016 C7 1LT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Oxford, GA Posts: 3,596 View My Garage	SC will never beat the brute force of the turbo's when spooling up. And the top end power on the SC kits aren't to great. It goes from all out power to a steady incline of power. Also you can't compare a SC 6psi's to a turbo's 6psi's. If you do please go back to the books because there is no comparison. Either the tune or the car itself is malfunctioning or not set up right on the turbo car. And this is compared using the same type of car. I ran 382rwhp on a bad tune, no Meth, and at 3psi's on my kit. if I was at 6psi's with a good tune OOooo boy lol. O and I signed up like 3 months ago for grudge match's at CFIII for anyone that wants to run. And I'm glad the IPF kit is finally done, but everyone that wants to go FI has alot of supporting mods. And this will drive many away as they won't tune for modded C5's. If you compare the IPF kit to any similar SC kit and the other kits tune supports mods. That kit will most likely out power IPF but not by much. The key thing here is not many go FI when the rest of the motor is stock. Ok my rant is over I said I wasn't going to get in this lol! __________________

05-02-2012, 09:48 AM	#62
hunterv6 Always bet on Black Drives: 2011 turbo LS, 2012 f 150, Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Concord Nc Posts: 1,983	ipf supercharger against twins turbos i think i can make the fest after all. __________________

05-02-2012, 10:18 AM	#64
lscamaro Drives: 2011 CGM Camaro LS A6 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 10,305	I would pay to see that..... But since I can't go, if it does happen, someone please have a camcorder there!!! __________________ Click Picture for Build Thread

05-02-2012, 10:32 AM	#65
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	All about that Smoke!! And Gretchen on 5-6 PSI ran a low 12 sec 1/4 mile. Gretchens dyno #'s will be lower than a standard due to the drivetrain loss of a auto vs manual...and gretchen has a stall converter.