Chevrolet: Stock 2012 ZL1 Runs 11.93 Quarter Mile (Video)

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by 1ltcap

also....hot car in your av........69's were my favorites.......

Thanks. 1969 is my favorite year for the Camaro also. Here's a larger image:

[JimmyDeanSausage]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Produced by Motor Trend

Uh, yes?

"That gives us a CORRECTED...time of under 12."

They didn't actually run an 11, have you thought they did this entire time?

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

Uh, yes?

"That gives us a CORRECTED...time of under 12."

They didn't actually run an 11, have you thought they did this entire time?

These guys drive cars for a living, I assume when he says "under 12 seconds" the car is capable of it

[JimmyDeanSausage]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

These guys drive cars for a living, I assume when he says "under 12 seconds" the car is capable of it

The car didn't run an 11 in the hands of Motortrend, period. So feel free to stop telling everyone that it did. Again, high horsepower, street tires, high elevation. Ignoring the implications of this is pure fanboy and borderline disinformation.

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

I was stating that people should be accurate with their statements so there would be no misinformation spread, and, therefore, there would be no need for corrections.

Again, I agree. But good luck with getting people to research before they post. Too many times the just repeat what the have heard (or think they have heard) without first verifying the information. A lot of the time, they just post things they know are not accurate to get a specfic reaction from certain people.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

Motortrend did not run an 11. They ran a 12.6 or so at 4400' and then corrected it for elevation.

Think about the implications of running a very high HP car at high elevations and then pretending its the exact same thing as actually running the corrected time at sea level. It isn't, for pretty obvious reasons.

In quarter-mile testing, the Camaro ran through in 12.1 seconds at 117 mph (from the motor trend website)

Above you said 12.6 maybe you should stop quoting miss information.

For me to take their corrected time of under 12 seconds as solid is not a stretch, when they ran a 12.1 at a crazy elevation on a cold/dusty track

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

maybe you should stop quoting miss information

And here I thought I was Miss Information.. Feel free to quote me whenever you the urge hits you.

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by tooslow

Again, I agree. But good luck with getting people to research before they post. Too many times the just repeat what the have heard (or think they have heard) without first verifying the information. A lot of the time, they just post things they know are not accurate to get a specfic reaction from certain people.

I think you are correct. Unfortunately, in this day and age where it seems that almost everything has to happen "right now" few people appear to be willing take the time to perform an adequate editorial function on the information that they post on Internet forums

[Bob Cosby]

Originally Posted by SUX2BU

...The time slips in the video show April 13th....

Thanks. I couldn't read the date on the timeslip - can you by chance make out the time?

Anyway....High temp that day for Milan was 62F (I looked it up). Not great air, but not bad either. Given the track's altitude, and assuming they ran in the middle of the day, figure a DA of ~+750 ft.

[JimmyDeanSausage]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

In quarter-mile testing, the Camaro ran through in 12.1 seconds at 117 mph (from the motor trend website)

Above you said 12.6 maybe you should stop quoting miss information.

For me to take their corrected time of under 12 seconds as solid is not a stretch, when they ran a 12.1 at a crazy elevation on a cold/dusty track

The 12.1 is also a corrected time. If you want an uncorrected time youre going to need to take a look at Road and Tracks.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

The 12.1 is also a corrected time. If you want an uncorrected time youre going to need to take a look at Road and Tracks.

Please show me where they stated the 12.1 is corrected It is written in print under their test data.





POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL12012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca DRIVETRAIN LAYOUTFront engine, RWDFront engine, RWD ENGINE TYPESupercharged 90-deg V-8, aluminum block/heads90-deg V-8, aluminum block/heads VALVETRAINOHV, 2 valves/cylDOHC, 4 valves/cyl DISPLACEMENT376.0 cu in/6162 cc302.1 cu in/4951 cc COMPRESSION RATIO9.1:111.0:1 POWER (SAE NET)580 hp @ 6100 rpm444 hp @ 7400 rpm TORQUE (SAE NET)556 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm380 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm REDLINE6200 rpm7500 rpm WEIGHT TO POWER7.0 lb/hp8.2 lb/hp TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual6-speed manual AXLE/FINAL-DRIVE RATIO3.73:1/2.35:13.73:1/2.42:1 SUSPENSION, FRONT; REARMultilink, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll barStruts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; live axle, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar STEERING RATIO16.1:115.9:1 TURNS LOCK-TO-LOCK2.52.7 BRAKES, F;R 14.6-in vented disc; 14.4-in vented disc, ABS 14.0-in vented disc; 11.8-in vented disc, ABS WHEELS, F;R 10.0 x 20-in; 11.0 x 20-in, cast aluminum 9.0 x 19-in; 10.0 x 19-in cast aluminum TIRES, F;R 285/35ZR20 100Y; 305/35ZR20 104Y
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G: 2 255/40ZR19; 285/35ZR19
Pirelli PZero Corsa DIMENSIONS WHEELBASE112.3 in107.1 in TRACK, F/R63.7/63.7 in61.9/62.5 in LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT190.4 x 75.5 x 54.2 in188.1 x 73.9 x 55.1 in TURNING CIRCLE37.7 ft39.4 ft CURB WEIGHT4051 lb3638 lb WEIGHT DIST, F/R52/48%55/45% SEATING CAPACITY42 HEADROOM, F/R 37.4/35.3 in38.5/-- in LEGROOM, F/R42.4/29.9 in42.4/-- in SHOULDER ROOM, F/R56.9/42.5 in55.3/-- in CARGO VOLUME11.3 cu ft13.4 cu ft TEST DATA ACCELERATION TO MPH 0-301.6 sec1.7 sec 0-402.22.3 0-502.93.1 0-603.84.0 0-704.85.1 0-806.06.4 0-907.37.9 0-1008.79.5 PASSING, 45-65 MPH1.71.7 QUARTER MILE12.1 sec @ 117.4 mph12.4 sec @ 113.9 mph BRAKING, 60-0 MPH108 ft112 ft LATERAL ACCELERATION1.00 g (avg)1.01 g (avg) 2.2-MI ROAD COURSE LAP01:41.301:43.7 TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH1700 rpm1950 rpm CONSUMER INFO BASE PRICE$55,995 $48,100 PRICE AS TESTED$56,465 $48,100 STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROLYes/yesYes/yes AIRBAGSDual front, front side, f/r curtain Dual front, front side BASIC WARRANTY3 yrs/36,000 mi3 yrs/36,000 mi POWERTRAIN WARRANTY5 yrs/100,000 mi5 yrs/60,000 mi ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE5 yrs/100,000 mi5 yrs/60,000 mi FUEL CAPACITY 19.0 gal16.0 gal EPA CITY/HWY ECON16/19 mpg17/26 mpg ENERGY CONS, CITY/HWY211/177 kW-hrs/100 mi198/130 kW-hrs/100 mi CO2 EMISSIONS 1.13 lb/mi0.96 lb/mi RECOMMENDED FUEL Unleaded premiumUnleaded premium

[Bob Cosby]

Interestingly, the Boss 302 ran a 12.4 @ 114 in the same article.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby

Interestingly, the Boss 302 ran a 12.4 @ 114 in the same article.

The Boss is a Beast and why the Shelby needs to be a lot better for the extra money.

[JimmyDeanSausage]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Please show me where they stated the 12.1 is corrected It is written in print under their test data.





POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL12012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca DRIVETRAIN LAYOUTFront engine, RWDFront engine, RWD ENGINE TYPESupercharged 90-deg V-8, aluminum block/heads90-deg V-8, aluminum block/heads VALVETRAINOHV, 2 valves/cylDOHC, 4 valves/cyl DISPLACEMENT376.0 cu in/6162 cc302.1 cu in/4951 cc COMPRESSION RATIO9.1:111.0:1 POWER (SAE NET)580 hp @ 6100 rpm444 hp @ 7400 rpm TORQUE (SAE NET)556 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm380 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm REDLINE6200 rpm7500 rpm WEIGHT TO POWER7.0 lb/hp8.2 lb/hp TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual6-speed manual AXLE/FINAL-DRIVE RATIO3.73:1/2.35:13.73:1/2.42:1 SUSPENSION, FRONT; REARMultilink, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll barStruts, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; live axle, coil springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar STEERING RATIO16.1:115.9:1 TURNS LOCK-TO-LOCK2.52.7 BRAKES, F;R 14.6-in vented disc; 14.4-in vented disc, ABS 14.0-in vented disc; 11.8-in vented disc, ABS WHEELS, F;R 10.0 x 20-in; 11.0 x 20-in, cast aluminum 9.0 x 19-in; 10.0 x 19-in cast aluminum TIRES, F;R 285/35ZR20 100Y; 305/35ZR20 104Y
Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar G: 2 255/40ZR19; 285/35ZR19
Pirelli PZero Corsa DIMENSIONS WHEELBASE112.3 in107.1 in TRACK, F/R63.7/63.7 in61.9/62.5 in LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT190.4 x 75.5 x 54.2 in188.1 x 73.9 x 55.1 in TURNING CIRCLE37.7 ft39.4 ft CURB WEIGHT4051 lb3638 lb WEIGHT DIST, F/R52/48%55/45% SEATING CAPACITY42 HEADROOM, F/R 37.4/35.3 in38.5/-- in LEGROOM, F/R42.4/29.9 in42.4/-- in SHOULDER ROOM, F/R56.9/42.5 in55.3/-- in CARGO VOLUME11.3 cu ft13.4 cu ft TEST DATA ACCELERATION TO MPH 0-301.6 sec1.7 sec 0-402.22.3 0-502.93.1 0-603.84.0 0-704.85.1 0-806.06.4 0-907.37.9 0-1008.79.5 PASSING, 45-65 MPH1.71.7 QUARTER MILE12.1 sec @ 117.4 mph12.4 sec @ 113.9 mph BRAKING, 60-0 MPH108 ft112 ft LATERAL ACCELERATION1.00 g (avg)1.01 g (avg) 2.2-MI ROAD COURSE LAP01:41.301:43.7 TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH1700 rpm1950 rpm CONSUMER INFO BASE PRICE$55,995 $48,100 PRICE AS TESTED$56,465 $48,100 STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROLYes/yesYes/yes AIRBAGSDual front, front side, f/r curtain Dual front, front side BASIC WARRANTY3 yrs/36,000 mi3 yrs/36,000 mi POWERTRAIN WARRANTY5 yrs/100,000 mi5 yrs/60,000 mi ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE5 yrs/100,000 mi5 yrs/60,000 mi FUEL CAPACITY 19.0 gal16.0 gal EPA CITY/HWY ECON16/19 mpg17/26 mpg ENERGY CONS, CITY/HWY211/177 kW-hrs/100 mi198/130 kW-hrs/100 mi CO2 EMISSIONS 1.13 lb/mi0.96 lb/mi RECOMMENDED FUEL Unleaded premiumUnleaded premium

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Weather Correction
In an attempt to ensure fair comparisons between cars tested in the high desert heat of summer and the dense cold of a Michigan winter, we record the weather conditions using a Computech RaceAir system and then use the SAE's J1349 procedure as a guide to correct all test results to standard operating conditions of 77 degrees F, 29.32 inches mercury barometric pressure, and zero-percent humidity. This procedure also levels the field for multiple cars tested on a certain day that may start out cool and become blazing hot for the 10th car tested. To the best of our knowledge, only one competitor uses this same correction method. Another is believed to be using a different system to correct results to 60-degree dry air at 29.93 inches of mercury. Most others do not correct. Other than car-to-car variations, this is the main reason published test numbers vary for a given model of vehicle. It's worth noting that the correction factor is reduced for turbocharged engines and for hybrids, because electric motors and turbochargers are not affected much by swings in barometric pressure (turbos reach a preset boost pressure regardless of intake air pressure).