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Old 05-06-2012, 06:06 PM   #407
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I'm sure he does. On another note the Shelby is back at the Ring even as I type and press drive day of the new GT500 is a couple of weeks away as I know one Automotive journalist who has an invite in hand.
is that when we will see the 1/4 mile numbers for the gt500 or will we have too wait longer.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:17 PM   #408
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is that when we will see the 1/4 mile numbers for the gt500 or will we have too wait longer.
My suspicion is that you will see the numbers in the days and weeks after. Of course I'm sure like any manufacturer they will make sure the event is presented under the best weather and track conditions possible so we'll still need to wait longer for owners stock numbers.

On the topic of ZL1's the writer (and racer) referenced was very impressed with the ZL1 at VIR. Thought it needed better seats though.


He felt that the biggest difference between the Camaro and the Mustang came down to the enthusiast demographic, feeling the Mustang had wider appeal in spite of currently losing the sales race. As to that, he credits pent up demand, a less fussy exterior design and better media exposure.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:41 PM   #409
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a less fussy exterior design
less fussy exterior design = sexier car, right?

More popular? LMAO. The Camaro has been outselling the mustang since the 5th gen was first released in late 2009, with only a few months' exceptions.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:59 PM   #410
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You're wrong sir. It's not the Camaro I hate, I keep buying them so I must like them a little bit, right? Anyway, it's not the ZL1 I hate, it's a specific team at GM I dislike. Stop feeding us BS, that's all.
This isn't the first thread where you've accused people of lying about quarter mile times in the ZL1, you did it in the thread where a guy ran a 12.02 with timeslip and in-car video.

Maybe you're not mad at the Camaro, maybe you're just mad at people who like/root for Camaros (which presumably is everyone on this forum). Either way, you seem to have a stick up your ass.

Just calling 'em as I seem 'em.
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:11 PM   #411
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Just calling 'em as I seem 'em.
Unfortunately, I believe you aren't seeing clearly. And, you aren't alone. Lately, if someone questions the validity of a claim or (gasp) points out confusing and/or contradictory information, they are branded outright as trolls or enemies of GM, believing them to be liars. (I was accused of being one of the latter.)

I am hoping that we can soon return to congenial debate and healthy scepticism.
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Old 05-06-2012, 08:59 PM   #412
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...Lately, if someone questions the validity of a claim or (gasp) points out confusing and/or contradictory information, they are branded outright as trolls or enemies of GM, believing them to be liars. (I was accused of being one of the latter.)

I am hoping that we can soon return to congenial debate and healthy scepticism.
Pretty much... even for those of us that do own a Camaro.... It's a shame one can't even question things around here now with out getting threatened with deletion or having fire and brimstone rained down upon them.. Honestly, I've seen people get less upset over taking a deity's name in vain.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:24 PM   #413
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Tiss Tiss Tiss. the 500 gang just can't accept the fact that there are now two bone stock vehicles faster than they are, the ZL1 and the 392 Challenger automatic .
LOL. I guess you missed the timeslips of my 2012 GT500 with only 200 miles on it. Stock right down to the paper filter and crap tires. Also in some nice Florida heat and humidity to boot..........
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:27 PM   #414
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LOL. I guess you missed the timeslips of my 2012 GT500 with only 200 miles on it. Stock right down to the paper filter and crap tires. Also in some nice Florida heat and humidity to boot..........

you must've ran that on the only night in florida with a negative da. at least that's what everyone seems to think when stangs run well.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:49 PM   #415
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:05 PM   #417
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Imma funny, youre a funny, wouldnt you like to be a funny too..............
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You have the ultimate transformer there. A challenger that turns into a GT500.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:10 PM   #419
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Unfortunately, I believe you aren't seeing clearly. And, you aren't alone. Lately, if someone questions the validity of a claim or (gasp) points out confusing and/or contradictory information, they are branded outright as trolls or enemies of GM, believing them to be liars. (I was accused of being one of the latter.)

I am hoping that we can soon return to congenial debate and healthy scepticism.
I assume your referencing my reply to you about your "confusion" (really stupidity ). I never called you an enemy of GM. I just pointed out your ridiculous reasoning and what you were driving. Go read your reply where you asked what the TRUTH is. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
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