Watch the Lingenfelter Camaro ZL1 Topping 200 MPH! - Page 4 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

The IOM Ninja · 05-07-2012, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SUX2BU

Can't really tell much from the fuzzy pic. I wonder why they taped off part of the lower grill.

If you look near the Headlamps you will notice the flexing and the splitter though it's hard to see looks like it wants to rip itself off

Sebastian · 05-07-2012, 03:17 AM

this car is awesome! wanna have one.....

nagmashot · 05-07-2012, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

I think this is a great accomplishment for Lingenfelter ,but I don't understand why they even brought up the GT500. So a highly modified car can run as fast as an OEM stock car.
Spend enough money on any car and it will run 200 MPH.

I noticed that the car had a roll cage and no back seat. I wonder how many more weight saving mods were done if any. I know the cage would have easily weighed more than the seat ,but it got me thinking as to what all was really done to that car. Like I said in other threads, does anyone in the real world even care if their car can go that fast for anything other than bragging.

All of this really makes me wonder if the GT500 can really go 200 MPH off the showroom floor.

weight (+/- 100-300lbs) has no effect on topspeed... only on the time/distance you need to reach it.

200mph is fast but nothing that a Autobahn junky makes nervus

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Would like to see what this baby could do on the Autobahn 1mile away from my home... nice cold German air and miles of the fastest public road on earth the Autobahn A5 were they did the fastest ever run on a public road with 268mph (432.7km/h) over a flying km in two directions...

just how you do it like the guys from M5 board . com ...take your tuned car with GPS equipment on the Autobahn next to my home and let it run...

206mph on public road in traffic... reached after 1minute on the A5.... no proving ground needed no helmet or race suit or roll cage... do not make easy things complicate

Oh and btw... here in Germany topspeed is everything that matter... no one cares here about 1/4mile times... I let you win 0.5s at a red traffic light if I can own you several minutes because my car runs 20km/h faster than your car during distance driving from point a to b ... highspeed driving is long time adrenalin rush ... not a 12s rush

J666 · 05-07-2012, 04:44 AM

The front bumper seems like it's going to rip off.

1954 Belair-man · 05-07-2012, 04:56 AM

Awesome!

ChuckD · 05-07-2012, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ1034

What's up with the high intake temps?

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Originally Posted by HPT BANDIT

Even with a bigger inter cooler, if you spin the piss out of a small blower, it's going to create a lot of heat.

I'm curious if they did a gear swap or raised the rev limiter.

That's right. Anytime you modify the pulley, you are going to be operating the supercharger in a less-efficient regime it wasn't designed for. It'll generate a lot of boost, but it will make a lot of heat. The heat exhchangers in the manifold were designed for the stock configuration.

ParisTNDude · 05-07-2012, 07:30 AM

Although the achievement is awesome, I find it a little lack-luster in a car modified to produce 140hp more than bone stock. There's not a lot of practicality in running speeds like this other than a bragging point and the only real measure of value is going to be what the car can do bone stock. This video simply shows the huge power output the 2013 GT500 has if it accomplishes this feat bone stock. Just my opinion.

ParisTNDude · 05-07-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by LeviG

Someone please tell me: Is the GT500 a "factory" car or are they still considered post-title Shelby builds? Because if they are, then technically we're still pitting modified against modified here.

Also this article:: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97479 ::says that the SS reached 174.4 mph after the top speed limiter was removed. So if the SS will do that, why is it so hard for the ZL1 (with another 154 HP) to go just another 25.6 mph?? Is it gearing? What? This does'nt make sense to me.

And did anyone else notice the amount of flex in the ZL1's front end on this 200+ run? INSANE!!! Looked like it was about to rip off![/QUOTE

The GT500 is all Ford built right beside all other mustangs right down the same line. The are only Shelbys in name only.

They are not different than the ZL1 being built right beside all other camaros in the same plant.

When I lived and worked in Germany I drove a 2002 C5 Vette 6m that had considerable bolt ons, headers, full exhaust, Vararam, Diablo tune, and a few other things. The C5 coupe top speed was supposedly around 173. On a trip from Munich to Berchtesgarten on the autobahn, the car did 183 GPS validated...but, it was not fun! I probably wouldn't have done it but I was being encouraged by an AMG tuner Mercedes! My conclusion was that it takes a lot of added HP to gain only 10 mph.

Brianskeet · 05-07-2012, 08:09 AM

This run really does validate the aero package that Chevy put together for this car. Not only will it look better than anything on the road it slices through the air as well.

xx_ED_xx · 05-07-2012, 08:26 AM

Thats one of the reasons i want to get stationed in germany. Autobahn. but i would prefer to have a cage and safety equipment most of ours cars arent designed to wreck at 150 plus speeds.

And of course the http://www.nuerburgring.de/en.html

xx_ED_xx · 05-07-2012, 08:28 AM

And to the OP, do you want to sell your ABM car? I would be especially interested if it was a no sunroof and M6 car

sammyv · 05-07-2012, 09:13 AM

Lingenfelter, toured your shop a couple of months ago and you had your red camaro on the dyno pulling 610 at the wheels. At the time I had a ZR1 I was looking to mod. I sold it and ordered a ZL1 (needed to downsize a bit) and I have to say I'm more excited about this new camaro than any other car I've owned. Congrats on all you've done with the camaro and you will be seeing me again!

Vengeance Graphix · 05-07-2012, 09:19 AM

awesome!

htron50 · 05-07-2012, 11:15 AM

The stability / ability is proven. Regardless of engine mods. The body design is very aerodynamic friendly. Power needed to offset drag at high speed is quite incredible. Will the GT500 match it? Hopefully, if it does, it does so safely. It certainly is not going to be a run away no matter which test (top speed or 1/4 mile). It will be close. I wouldn't stand still if I was Ford, that's for sure. But, the factory cars are reaching max tolerance levels for aerodynamics, tires, control, stability, safety, and so on. I really don't see the point in arguing over unknown differentiations and hypotheticals. It's like chasing your tail. I will say this, if you own a ZL1 or a 2013 GT500, you both have maximum factory potential at your disposal. The only point of arguing is ego. So, why would the "other" fans come here to argue? My take is "Wishful thinking and self support for what they have already invested in". Which has, so far, been exceeded by ZL1. So, let them have their beliefs and don't fall prey to being dragged in to ego self massages.

PS: Good job Lingenfelter! Thanks for the testing and posting!

05-07-2012, 07:30 AM	#49
ParisTNDude Owning SSes for 50 Years Drives: Sharkskin Grey LT1 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Paris, TN Posts: 3,139 View My Garage	Although the achievement is awesome, I find it a little lack-luster in a car modified to produce 140hp more than bone stock. There's not a lot of practicality in running speeds like this other than a bragging point and the only real measure of value is going to be what the car can do bone stock. This video simply shows the huge power output the 2013 GT500 has if it accomplishes this feat bone stock. Just my opinion. __________________ The new ride: 2023 Camaro, LT1, Sharkskin Grey Previous Performance Cars: 1966 Chevelle SS 4M, 2010 Corvette 6M 1968 Dodge Charger R/T Auto 2012 1SS 6M 1982 Corvette Auto 2010 1SS 6A 1984 Corvette Auto 2016 2SS 8A 1999 Camaro Auto 2017 HBM 1SS 1le 2002 C5 Corvette 6M 2018 2SS 2006 Corvette Auto 2023 Camaro LT1

05-07-2012, 08:09 AM	#51
Brianskeet Brianskeet Drives: RJTC 1SS RS L99 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crestview FL Posts: 771 View My Garage	This run really does validate the aero package that Chevy put together for this car. Not only will it look better than anything on the road it slices through the air as well. __________________ ARH 1 7/8 coated LT, High flows, Corsa L99 exhaust, Vmax CNC throttle body, Elite Engineering catch can and tunnel brace, C.A.I. Apex Washer relocation and scoop, Janetty Tune, MSD wires, DEI heat shields, RB rotors and pads, Mike the powder coater calipers, pedders lines, Forgestar F14's, Gorilla nutz, MTI spoiler finished by Gary, Gary's Customz Bow Ties, Side Markers and Tails tinted, Bezels matte black, Badges deleted, Windows Tinted, AAC DRL P13W lights, AAC tinted LED reverse lights, AAC LED interior lights, RPI match painted DRL Bezels, Lis plate frame, Lloyds mats

05-07-2012, 08:26 AM	#52
xx_ED_xx Drives: 04 Silverado Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Floriduh! Posts: 1,113	Thats one of the reasons i want to get stationed in germany. Autobahn. but i would prefer to have a cage and safety equipment most of ours cars arent designed to wreck at 150 plus speeds. And of course the http://www.nuerburgring.de/en.html __________________

05-07-2012, 08:28 AM	#53
xx_ED_xx Drives: 04 Silverado Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Floriduh! Posts: 1,113	And to the OP, do you want to sell your ABM car? I would be especially interested if it was a no sunroof and M6 car __________________

05-07-2012, 09:13 AM	#54
sammyv Drives: 2013 red Lingenfelter ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: zionsville IN Posts: 567	Lingenfelter, toured your shop a couple of months ago and you had your red camaro on the dyno pulling 610 at the wheels. At the time I had a ZR1 I was looking to mod. I sold it and ordered a ZL1 (needed to downsize a bit) and I have to say I'm more excited about this new camaro than any other car I've owned. Congrats on all you've done with the camaro and you will be seeing me again! Last edited by sammyv; 05-07-2012 at 11:10 AM. Reason: spelling

05-07-2012, 03:17 AM	#44
Sebastian Drives: Camaro 2011, 6.2L 2SS Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 300 View My Garage	this car is awesome! wanna have one.....

05-07-2012, 04:44 AM	#46
J666 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Lower Mainland Posts: 328	The front bumper seems like it's going to rip off.

05-07-2012, 04:56 AM	#47
1954 Belair-man Drives: 2010 Camaro IOM 1SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 889	Awesome!

05-07-2012, 09:19 AM	#55
Vengeance Graphix Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central NJ Posts: 10,870	awesome! __________________ Vengeance Graphix

05-07-2012, 11:15 AM	#56
htron50 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Status "Thank You!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,498	The stability / ability is proven. Regardless of engine mods. The body design is very aerodynamic friendly. Power needed to offset drag at high speed is quite incredible. Will the GT500 match it? Hopefully, if it does, it does so safely. It certainly is not going to be a run away no matter which test (top speed or 1/4 mile). It will be close. I wouldn't stand still if I was Ford, that's for sure. But, the factory cars are reaching max tolerance levels for aerodynamics, tires, control, stability, safety, and so on. I really don't see the point in arguing over unknown differentiations and hypotheticals. It's like chasing your tail. I will say this, if you own a ZL1 or a 2013 GT500, you both have maximum factory potential at your disposal. The only point of arguing is ego. So, why would the "other" fans come here to argue? My take is "Wishful thinking and self support for what they have already invested in". Which has, so far, been exceeded by ZL1. So, let them have their beliefs and don't fall prey to being dragged in to ego self massages. PS: Good job Lingenfelter! Thanks for the testing and posting!