Someone race 11' 12' gt500 vs zl1 (at strip)

[SIRLOIN]

GoldenBear gimmie a freakin break...

Is winning the lottory impossible? NO... Are you likely to ever win the lottery? NO...

Same thing goes for hitting a 1.6 60ft on stock G2's...

It is damn near impossible to hit that on stock G2's.

You will NEVER see anyone else EVER, hit a 1.6 60ft on the stock G2's on the ZL1... EVER...

Will you ever see a ZL1 break into the 11's (in the hands of private owners)? More than likely... But i guaruntee you it wont be hitting a 1.6 60ft on stock G2's...

[KennyC]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

Just because a stock ZL1 ran a great 1.6981 60 foot time, doesn't unequivocally prove that that time was run using Drag Radials.

The ZR1 does not have the same Magnetic Ride Control suspension as the ZL1.

A 1.6981 second 60 foot time is 7.5 percent slower than a 1.58 second 60 foot time.

Also, 60-foot times are dependent upon many things such as traction, gearing, launch rpm, staging depth, how hot or cold the track and tires are, track conditions, etc.

If one wants to obtain a truly apples to apples comparison between a ZR1 and a ZL1, one would need to use the same driver on the same track on the same day.

Golden, you seem like a very intelligent individual. That's obvious from reading your other post. But WOW sir, there is no way a ZL1 or anything goes a 1.69 60 on the stock tires. Now freaking way. That thing was run on drag radials! Some of you other guys need to step away from the computer and go to the track. Not flaming anyone, but come on guys some of you are making the camaro community look like complete idiots with some of your post. Carry on.......

[vertcobra99]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

Just because a stock ZL1 ran a great 1.6981 60 foot time, doesn't unequivocally prove that that time was run using Drag Radials.

The ZR1 does not have the same Magnetic Ride Control suspension as the ZL1.

A 1.6981 second 60 foot time is 7.5 percent slower than a 1.58 second 60 foot time.

Also, 60-foot times are dependent upon many things such as traction, gearing, launch rpm, staging depth, how hot or cold the track and tires are, track conditions, etc.

If one wants to obtain a truly apples to apples comparison between a ZR1 and a ZL1, one would need to use the same driver on the same track on the same day.

now your grasping at straws not the same magnetic suspension?... I am sure that they are extremely similar. what about the other stock ZR1 60 foot times I listed from drag times? So what your saying is that the ZL1 is capable of a better 60 foot time then a ZR1? Because that is what your implying.

[HDRDTD]

Just how many of you that are convinced that there no way in hell that the ZL1 can put down a 1.69 time on street tires that actually own a ZL1?

Just curious.

The mag suspension is but one part of the PTM modes.

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by SIRLOIN

GoldenBear gimmie a freakin break...

Is winning the lottory impossible? NO... Are you likely to ever win the lottery? NO...

Same thing goes for hitting a 1.6 60ft on stock G2's...

It is damn near impossible to hit that on stock G2's.

You will NEVER see anyone else EVER, hit a 1.6 60ft on the stock G2's on the ZL1... EVER...

Will you ever see a ZL1 break into the 11's (in the hands of private owners)? More than likely... But i guaruntee you it wont be hitting a 1.6 60ft on stock G2's...

You are correct that I won't win the lottery, because I never have, and I never will buy a lottery ticket.

Let's be accurate, as the time slip in question indicates a 60 foot time of 1.6981 seconds and not 1.6000 seconds. The 1.6981 second time may not be likely, but it's not impossible. That's my point.

I don't claim that the ZL1 did run the 1.6981 60 foot time on stock Goodyears. I'm claiming that just because the ZL1 did run a 1.6981 60 foot time, doesn't unequivally prove that that time was run on Drag Radials. There is a difference between the two positions.

I'm still waiting for unequivocal proof that the ZL1 did not run a 1.681 60 foot time on the stock Goodyears.

Originally Posted by KennyC

Golden, you seem like a very intelligent individual. That's obvious from reading your other post. But WOW sir, there is no way a ZL1 or anything goes a 1.69 60 on the stock tires. Now freaking way. That thing was run on drag radials!

And your unequivocal proof is?

I'm not claiming it was or it wasn't with Drag Radials. I'm claiming that a 1.6981 second 60 foot time, in and of itself, doesn't unequivocally prove that the time was run on Drag Radials.

Originally Posted by vertcobra99

now your grasping at straws not the same magnetic suspension?... I am sure that they are extremely similar. what about the other stock ZR1 60 foot times I listed from drag times? So what your saying is that the ZL1 is capable of a better 60 foot time then a ZR1? Because that is what your implying.

I'm not implying that the ZL1 is capable of a better 60 foot time that a ZR1. I didn't intended for you to infer that. I simply stated that for a truly accurate comparison one must use the same driver and the same track on the same day.

[SIRLOIN]

Originally Posted by HDRDTD

Just how many of you that are convinced that there no way in hell that the ZL1 can put down a 1.69 time on street tires that actually own a ZL1?

Just curious.

The mag suspension is but one part of the PTM modes.

Not i... Do you own one? Does GoldenBear? What does it matter?

IF GM pulled a 1.6 60ft on stock tires, IF... That leads anyone with rational thinking to believe that SOMETHING was done to help it get that. Why do i say that? BECAUSE IT'S UNHEARD OF LOL!!!

It's hard to pull off even with DR's...

Now the question is, what was that SOMETHING that was NOT NORMAL done to achieve those UNHEARD OF 60ft's?

How many other times was there SOMETHING done that is NOT NORMAL in all the other times released by GM?

Look, i think everyone is on the same page that the ZL1 will eventually break into the 11's bone stock... But seriously, lets see someone other than GM accomplish it k...

For the record if any other manufacturer came out and claimed a 1.6 60ft on stock tires, you bet your ass i would call that BS as well. Because well,,,,,, plain and simple, it would be.

[Blue Menace]

^^ You're in trouble now!!

[vertcobra99]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

You are correct that I won't win the lottery, because I never have, and I never will buy a lottery ticket.

Let's be accurate, as the time slip in question indicates a 60 foot time of 1.6981 seconds and not 1.6000 seconds. The 1.6981 second time may not be likely, but it's not impossible. That's my point.

I don't claim that the ZL1 did run the 1.6981 60 foot time on stock Goodyears. I'm claiming that just because the ZL1 did run a 1.6981 60 foot time, doesn't unequivally prove that that time was run on Drag Radials. There is a difference between the two positions.

I'm still waiting for unequivocal proof that the ZL1 did not run a 1.681 60 foot time on the stock Goodyears.


And your unequivocal proof is?

I'm not claiming it was or it wasn't with Drag Radials. I'm claiming that a 1.6981 second 60 foot time, in and of itself, doesn't unequivocally prove that the time was run on Drag Radials.


I'm not implying that the ZL1 is capable of a better 60 foot time that a ZR1. I didn't intended for you to infer that. I simply stated that for a truly accurate comparison one must use the same driver and the same track on the same day.

Well the 60 foot time of 1.6X that you have listed for the ZL1 is better than any 60 foot time posted by a stock ZR1... take that how you will. I have been drag racing at the track for a long time. I have never ever ever seen a RWD car pull a 1.6X 60 foot time on stock tires... its unheard of.

[GTAHVIT]

Go to your respective corners...

We're tired of the same people having the same arguments.

Give it a rest.