1st pass stock ZL1 with slicks and skinnies - 11.43 @ 120.88

[Pro Stock John]

They had great air and Ken and the guys at Eastside have been drag racing for 20+ years.

[goodtime]

Originally Posted by jleews6

I don't get it. They went 11.90s and this car went 11.40s.How does that match it? The 60 foot could be a number of things from shallow staging, lining up crooked to a lucky run. Back in the 80s when I was racing my Grand National it used to 60 foot in the 1.6s with good tires on it and 1.9 on street tires. Then one day on street tires it went a 1.69. There is allway's that "one good pass" maybe they (GM) hit it. Im not saying they could do it again though.

You are right, you don't get it.(along with quite a few others)

The major difference here is the DA that both cars were run in. That accounts for the majority of the difference in times.

[scottywheels]

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

They had great air and Ken and the guys at Eastside have been drag racing for 20+ years.

And my rims and tires helped a little bit!!! LOLOLOL

[GoldenBear]

Originally Posted by chain777

It's all the hype that was propagated by Al O. and Co. that's causing the backlash. According to his simulator, it's supposed to keep up with or beat the '13 GT500, let-alone the '12. If that were true, it *should* blow the '12 GT500 away.

Exactly how much faster 0 to 60 MPH and in the quarter mile is the 2013 GT500 than the 2012 GT500 is?

[jleews6]

Originally Posted by goodtime

You are right, you don't get it.(along with quite a few others)

The major difference here is the DA that both cars were run in. That accounts for the majority of the difference in times.

No, I do get it. Read what he said first before you try to correct me. I doubt it was the DA that played as much of a part in the launch as the wheels and tires and the fact the the guys from East side probably shallow stage to help ET also. They know what they are doing.
BTW I have been drag racing for almost 30 years but thanks for filling me in about the DA.


This is what he said.
"So a slicks and skinnies set up in awesome air can only march GM's steer tire launch???"

[hognutz]

honestly people need to re-read all these time as they are comparing apples vs oranges.

this time was on SLICKS and skinny's not drag radials. so this time will be pretty optium give or take wheather conditions. this car was an auto so on slicks a manual could theoretically be launched a bit harder.

the 11.90 time that GM got is up in the air as it is stated at this was on goodyears but the 60' times looks to good to be true. I still think there is something untold on the GM times. the 60' times are just out of this world for a street tire or it wa a once in a lifetime situation that you or I would have a very hard time replicating.

there are other cars that have cliped into the 11's on drag radials but 11.80's-11.90's.

Slicks>dr>goodyears.

I think the one thing everyone should remember is that a 2012GT500 on slicks should be =/> to a 2012 ZL1 on slicks. the ZL1 has no advantage in a drag race once you equalize grip as the gt500 has a tad better power to wieght.

all this being said consistant 11's with tires and the handling this car brings to the table I would still pick it over a 2012 GT500 100% of the time. the car will need to be modded to hang with the 2013 at the drags though but everybody should know that already.

[goodtime]

Originally Posted by jleews6

No, I do get it. Read what he said first before you try to correct me. I doubt it was the DA that played as much of a part in the launch as the wheels and tires and the fact the the guys from East side probably shallow stage to help ET also. They know what they are doing.
BTW I have been drag racing for almost 30 years but thanks for filling me in about the DA.


This is what he said.
"So a slicks and skinnies set up in awesome air can only march GM's steer tire launch???"

You need to go back and check your corrected times then. I have been racing since the '90's myself and know a thing or two about what I am saying. DA was the vast majority of the difference. End of discussion.

[hot ss]

i ususally race at 5000-6000 ft.
bleh, im just jealous!

[SIRLOIN]

Great runs OP...

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by goodtime

You need to go back and check your corrected times then. I have been racing since the '90's myself and know a thing or two about what I am saying. DA was the vast majority of the difference. End of discussion.

The corrected time was 11.53 or 11.55 I think. If I remember right, the DA on the GM "suspect DR" run was -57 from a previous post a few days ago.

GM car was an auto, this car was a Manual.

[capnkirk52]

Originally Posted by hot ss

i ususally race at 5000-6000 ft.
bleh, im just jealous!

Me too. I have seen DA's in the 10,000's before. Kinda bruises the ego a lil.

[jleews6]

Originally Posted by goodtime

You need to go back and check your corrected times then. I have been racing since the '90's myself and know a thing or two about what I am saying. DA was the vast majority of the difference. End of discussion.

So your saying that the DA was the "vast majority" of the launch? The HP is going to play a roll over all and the MPH but the tires will make a much bigger difference in the launch.
Like I said,Read what he quoted and what we were talking about before you try to make your self proud by proving someone wrong.They were talking about the 60FT that GM got on stock tires VS this car on slicks and I was just saying that it is possible. Any fool knows that the DA plays a huge roll in over all ET and MPH but that's not what they were talking about.

BTW I had already had a 10 second street car and made over 800 passes before you even started racing.,,,,

[goodtime]

Originally Posted by jleews6

So your saying that the DA was the "vast majority" of the launch? The HP is going to play a roll over all and the MPH but the tires will make a much bigger difference in the launch.
Like I said,Read what he quoted and what we were talking about before you try to make your self proud by proving someone wrong.They were talking about the 60FT that GM got on stock tires VS this car on slicks and I was just saying that it is possible. Any fool knows that the DA plays a huge roll in over all ET and MPH but that's not what they were talking about.

BTW I had already had a 10 second street car and made over 800 passes before you even started racing.,,,,

I understand the conversation willis.

1. Slick/skinny car cut a similar 60' compared to GM with stock tires supposedly. I see through this but there is no proof to dispute it.

2. My DA comment circles back around to the difference in overall ET/MPH comparing to what the GM boys got vs. this car. This is all we can reasonably work off of here.

3. The OP's time posted in this thread will go down as one of the tire only hero runs mainly due to the DA the car was run in.

Get it?

BTW - IDGAF what you have done before I got involved in racing. How many records do you hold or have achieved is said 30 years?

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by GoldenBear

Exactly how much faster 0 to 60 MPH and in the quarter mile is the 2013 GT500 than the 2012 GT500 is?

Ask Al's simulator. LOL


Very nice run. Can't wait to line up with one of these at Bandi.