2013 Mustang GT500 MEGA THREAD

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Hmm, don't want to stick my foot in my mouth, but it looks like Shelby did not hit the ZL1's ring time? With the Shelby rolling off the line this week, why would Ford be holding on to performance data?

*shrugs*
Ford hasn't announced ANY performance metrics.

They must have lost in every single category.

[ShnOmac]

Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

If it runs 7:50 or better ill be pleased. I bet they can get it to run 7:30's if they do a few things like the zl1 crew did to get the 7:41. Shaved tires, race spec pads, the little stuff that makes a big difference.

Originally Posted by radz28

Did I miss these details somewhere?

[BigHemiSrt]

Holy bench racing!!! This is down right silly...

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

So it's also your assertion that the ZL1 will beat the 13 GT500 in the 1/4 and 0-60 as well?

I didn't say that, in fact I don't how they could screw that aspect of the fight up. What I have come to realize, after studying high performance cars, is that both the ZL1 and the Shelby have more power than they can use. Both cars will have hero runs, but their performance numbers overall will not be consistent or repeatable. After the smoke clears, Fords most complete car will still be the Boss 302 Laguna Seca.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by JimmyDeanSausage

Your logic says that. Which is why your logic is faulty.

We shall see, that is if Ford ever decides to release the numbers. They were so proud of the HP numbers, but now their not making as much noise.

[BigHemiSrt]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

We shall see, that is if Ford ever decides to release the numbers. They were so proud of the HP numbers, but now their not making as much noise.

Actions speak louder than words maybe???

Chevy made A LOT of noise spitting out all kinds of numbers and now that the car is out it really isnt living up to the hype for the most part.

Ford may be choosing a different route. Keep everything on the hush and BLOW everyones minds when this beast touches the street.

[72MachOne99GT]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

I didn't say that, in fact I don't how they could screw that aspect of the fight up. What I have come to realize, after studying high performance cars, is that both the ZL1 and the Shelby have more power than they can use. Both cars will have hero runs, but their performance numbers overall will not be consistent or repeatable. After the smoke clears, Fords most complete car will still be the Boss 302 Laguna Seca.

So it's reasonable to suspect the same will be said of the 1LE or whatever it is Camaro in comparison to the ZL1.

GT500's and ZL1s are hero cars, built for bragging rights, and great performance. But both will suffer terribly on road courses after two laps of racing.

Sorry, I know that issue has been beat to the ground repeatedly.

[2010-1SS-IBM]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Chevy made A LOT of noise spitting out all kinds of numbers and now that the car is out it really isnt living up to the hype for the most part.

In what way is the ZL1 underperforming? Be specific, please.

[2ndCamaro79]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

So it's reasonable to suspect the same will be said of the 1LE or whatever it is Camaro in comparison to the ZL1.

GT500's and ZL1s are hero cars, built for bragging rights, and great performance. But both will suffer terribly on road courses after two laps of racing.

Sorry, I know that issue has been beat to the ground repeatedly.

If the 1LE had the MR goodies, you massaged the LS3 to 485/500HP, with a functional cold air scoop and some weight saving reductions ..... YES it would be the most complete Camaro.

[kellyjns20]

I dont think the ZL1 can be compared to the GT500 from a car perspective. The GT500 will beat it badly on a drag strip with the same drivers. And the ZL1 barely edged the Boss out on a road course. I just dont see this being a great comparison.

[Blue Maro Demon]

Just some info I listened to on a Camaro podcast last weekend they interviewed a guy from GM that helped work on the LSA engine in the new Camaro ZL1 and one of the callers asked him what they were going to do now that the 13 GT500 had 662hp and over 600lb ft of torque and his reply was that they have some changes in store for the engine and that the horsepower wars are alive and well and not over yet. That makes me believe there will more than likely be an updated ZL1 with over 700hp in the future.

[The Shadoww]

I'm longing for the ZL1 to go head to head with the '13GT500. The 500 is a beast of a car but i still think the ZL1 will handle business as usual.
I also want to know which one will be the easiest to mod!

[The Shadoww]

Originally Posted by BigHemiSrt

Actions speak louder than words maybe???

Chevy made A LOT of noise spitting out all kinds of numbers and now that the car is out it really isnt living up to the hype for the most part.

Ford may be choosing a different route. Keep everything on the hush and BLOW everyones minds when this beast touches the street.

What do you mean? The only big numbers they spit out were the HP and Track Time, which both hold true.

I personally have heard at leas 10 times more hype for the 500 than the ZL1. The ZL1 had a staggering track time, Ford keep boasting about the HP in the 500 but it's about how those ponies get to the ground that counts.
Don't get me wrong both these cars are monsters, and as long as they keep putting imports to shame ill sit back with a smile on my face.

[nester7929]

Damn. Check out the helmet cam at 0:53.