MACE Ported Intake Manifold for you LLT

[lscamaro]

I'd suggest you wait. It would just be double the work to install one and then the other a little bit later.

[hapisok]

Originally Posted by lscamaro

I'd suggest you wait. It would just be double the work to install one and then the other a little bit later.

agreed. BUT...you would also be able to give feedback on the difference between the 2

[camaro2lt]

i think i am going to install it and make a review of the 2 Just to start i have on my car a vmax throttle body,bbk cai,flowmaster axleback....any tips on the install? also what do i torque the bolts too?

[MACE_ENG]

Originally Posted by camaro2lt

i think i am going to install it and make a review of the 2 Just to start i have on my car a vmax throttle body,bbk cai,flowmaster axleback....any tips on the install? also what do i torque the bolts too?

18ft lb for IM bolts

[camaro2lt]

cool cant wait to get it!

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by TJ91

Alright guys just waiting on a response from my dyno guys.
So I'm thinking dyno with black ice and stock IM and then ported manifold and black ice?
I'd love to do the same test they did
Stock manifold run. Then ported manifold and black ice combined but that's gonna be double the work since. I'll have to demod the black ice. Bring to dyno. Then come back and put the ported one with black ice and dyno again.

If you want to do the 3 various stages of dynos thats up to you and pocketbook lol. Otherwise, I say just dynoing as is now, and then dynoing after with the new ported IM sounds great to me!

Originally Posted by camaro2lt

i think i am going to install it and make a review of the 2 Just to start i have on my car a vmax throttle body,bbk cai,flowmaster axleback....any tips on the install? also what do i torque the bolts too?

Very cool! Looking forward to what you have to say.

[Synerbee]

The dynos should be within an hours of eachother and be cooled off or the numbers will be useless.

[TJ91]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

If you want to do the 3 various stages of dynos thats up to you and pocketbook lol. Otherwise, I say just dynoing as is now, and then dynoing after with the new ported IM sounds great to me!



Very cool! Looking forward to what you have to say.

working student lol pockets arent that deep :( Ill do that then!

Originally Posted by Synerbee

The dynos should be within an hours of eachother and be cooled off or the numbers will be useless.

Yeah well I gotta let the rtv set up as well so it will be hours apart if not a day apart.

Have to call dyno shop and get their prices as soon as I get off work

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by TJ91

Yeah well I gotta let the rtv set up as well so it will be hours apart if not a day apart.

Have to call dyno shop and get their prices as soon as I get off work

Its pretty damn difficult to get perfectly comparible numbers....You'd basically have to have some kind of controlled environment and be able to leave the car on the dyno while you made the changes....that is un-realistic for most people.

As long as you make an effort to dyno on days where the weather is reasonably close both times, and you dyno the car while its temps are about the same (say you dyno the car after some cool down the first time...well then you should do the same the 2nd time). The LLT seems to perform best when hot, but not heat soaked.

SAE correction should help even out the issues. Just keep a note of the weather conditions so you can report that to us when/if you show us your results.

[Ventmaster]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Its pretty damn difficult to get perfectly comparible numbers....You'd basically have to have some kind of controlled environment and be able to leave the car on the dyno while you made the changes....that is un-realistic for most people.

As long as you make an effort to dyno on days where the weather is reasonably close both times, and you dyno the car while its temps are about the same (say you dyno the car after some cool down the first time...well then you should do the same the 2nd time). The LLT seems to perform best when hot, but not heat soaked.

SAE correction should help even out the issues. Just keep a note of the weather conditions so you can report that to us when/if you show us your results.

Hey KP- now I know you're trying to play it smart and be "strong", and wait and get some objective information...but you know we're gonna buy this thing!!

You're (just like me), dreading taking that Black-Ice back off and pressing your luck on the re-install, hoping we don't jack-it all up! LOL

The way I see it, there's 2 ways to go here:

1) Take the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach and be satisfied with the car as is (say whaa?), or

2) Follow the sage advice of The Manly Handbook, which clearly states one step toward manliness is to "find a job you don't want to do, and do it!"

[hapisok]

ROFLMAO!!!

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Ventmaster

Hey KP- now I know you're trying to play it smart and be "strong", and wait and get some objective information...but you know we're gonna buy this thing!!

You're (just like me), dreading taking that Black-Ice back off and pressing your luck on the re-install, hoping we don't jack-it all up! LOL

The way I see it, there's 2 ways to go here:

1) Take the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" approach and be satisfied with the car as is (say whaa?), or

2) Follow the sage advice of The Manly Handbook, which clearly states one step toward manliness is to "find a job you don't want to do, and do it!"

lol funny guy.

I don't mind tearing the IM back off....trust me on that that doesn't bother me at all

But you are right...I know I will end up getting this thing but I have other things to take care of first. By the time the reviews will have come in and then I can join the rest of you guys with a ported IM

[camaro2lt]

got my ported intake today and love it gives alot more torque still need to do the 25mm

[SSTREETKING]

Originally Posted by camaro2lt

got my ported intake today and love it gives alot more torque still need to do the 25mm

Oh yez zir!

This porting is definitely the real deal. We need some 1/4 miles new 2012 record with All of these new mods?

Have any of you trifecta guys tried to ask for porting adjustment?

I bet with tuning we can maybe bring the HP to about 10 more:beer: