ZL1 faster than the Z06?

[Tally Ho]

Originally Posted by HDRDTD

Where are you seeing it stated that the speed limit on the Vert ZL1 is 155mph???

Several places but nothing confirmed. I guess we'll know for sure when they released to the public.

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by hognutz

but a base vet is not limited, the Z06 and ZR1 are not limted either.

Actually all three models have a fuel shut off (aka speed limiter) and are:

Base = 189mph
Z06 = 198mph
ZR1 = 205mph


Actual gear or horsepower limits are:
Base = 190 to 192 (depending on gear ratios)
Z06 = 202mph
ZR1 = 215mph


And with that being said the ZR1 is more of a race for a base model C6 than it ever will be for a Z06.

[Tally Ho]

Originally Posted by hognutz

nope. I have read teh ZL1 vert will be limted at 155 but a base vet is not limited, the Z06 and ZR1 are not limted either.

they quote 192 on the base vet I never had mine over 175.

they quote the Z06 at 198 which is drag limted but depending on conditions could be faster or slower. 185 is the fasted I have ever had my Z06

they quote the ZR1 at 205. the ZR1 is the one american car I have seen break 200 in controled tests unmodified. the one I rode it we just ran it up to like 170 but it pulled there the easiet and quickest of the the 3 for sure it was retarded. I though my z06 hit 170 fast till I rode in that car.

I think the 2008 viper might break 200 in novice hands as well unmodified.

most of the other cars just need too much runway to get there or it is so close to the cars max conditions sometimes will not allow it.

I'll have to find where it was I saw the Vette limits. My 2006 is rated to 186 but I've supercharged it and changed the tune so I have no idea how fast it could go. Being a convertible, drag would get me anyway. I've had it up to 155 on the back stretch of Talladega and it wasted no time getting there. If I have the ZL1 in time and it's broken in, it will go to Talladega in 2013.

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by eggydoo

I think vettes still use leaf springs.

Which are unlike any common leaf spring in both material and layout.

[Tally Ho]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

Which are unlike any common leaf spring in both material and layout.

Exactly. They are lightweight composite and do a pretty good job. Not as good as a coil over set up but when you're trying to keep cost and pounds down the transverse leaf springs work very well.

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by hognutz

It will not move out 120-170 as good though. Z06 is a monster. the all mighy 2013 ft500 got a 2009 Z06 by 1/2 car 70-170.

Are you talking about the race where the Z06 started in 3rd at 72mph?

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by Tally Ho

Exactly. They are lightweight composite and do a pretty good job. Not as good as a coil over set up but when you're trying to keep cost and pounds down the transverse leaf springs work very well.

Coilovers are 70% hype for most applications.

[IcePick06]

Originally Posted by mst504

Idk about those speeds, but from a stop its not even close. Supposedly from a stop its not even faster than a base vette from what I read.

That's a lie. Base vette is 0-60mph in 4.0 sec. ZL1 is 3.9 sec with auto and guys testing in mags have hit 3.8 sec in a manual so.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

Actually all three models have a fuel shut off (aka speed limiter) and are:

Base = 189mph
Z06 = 198mph
ZR1 = 205mph


Actual gear or horsepower limits are:
Base = 190 to 192 (depending on gear ratios)
Z06 = 202mph
ZR1 = 215mph


And with that being said the ZR1 is more of a race for a base model C6 than it ever will be for a Z06.

I don't think this correct. I will verify. when something say's 198 drag limited that is not a fuel cutoff.

your gear calulations are way off too. Z06 would go 227 or something in 5th.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by Cody6.2

Are you talking about the race where the Z06 started in 3rd at 72mph?

yeah they both started in 3rd to just even it out. honesly though you can lose grip in second at that speed if you just nail it but if you roll in you should start in second.

[hognutz]

From what I read there is no speed limit in the ECM

here are the mechanical limits

C6 LS3 206 5th gear
C6 Z06 227 5th gear
C6 Zr1 224 6th gear (.67)

Chevy advertised them all drag limited
192
198
205

the LS2's were 186. Now that being said most have not take the cars that fast and the chevy ECM's do have a place for speed limiters.

As for people saying a C6 is slow they are dreaming I ran times in my 08 in the quarter mile that rival anything the ZL1 has done to date but nothing faster than the 12.02 that that one guy posted in. the ZL1 ironically produces better road holding that my Z51 was advertised at.

[Scarrzz]

Originally Posted by oortcloud

I saw a video of two ZL1s racing. The ZL1 was faster than the ZL1! That's how fast it is.

Warning: plot complication... PARADOX !

ZL1 speed defies logic.

Film at 11:00.

[FNBADAZ06]

I can tell you with extreme confidence that a stock tuned C6 Z06 will not get it's fuel shut off at 198+ .
There is no active speed limiter of any sorts in the C6 Z06.

[Cody6.2]

Originally Posted by hognutz

yeah they both started in 3rd to just even it out. honesly though you can lose grip in second at that speed if you just nail it

It's called knowing how to drive your car.