Inside Line: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Comparison

[Betiwin]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

My Mustangs are stock.

You have a rear car my friend. Being stock that's is, not 1 of 4000 boss's. You are definantly part of the 1%.

[big hammer]

who cares if it's 200 or 300 pounds difference. the zl1 is too heavy. shit the gt 500 is too heavy.

[Bob Cosby]

Originally Posted by big hammer

who cares if it's 200 or 300 pounds difference. the zl1 is too heavy. shit the gt 500 is too heavy.

All Camaro's and Mustangs are too heavy these days....at least for this weight nazi....

[Blue Menace]

Originally Posted by mlee

The best part is it's super easy to up the power... The platform and handling not so much...

Too true! Better to start with an awesome base suspension, huh?

[newmoon]

I'd like to know where are all the timeslips from these mid 11 second 13 GT500s from the owners. I think I have seen 1 impressive slip in a month and another video of one be pounced on by a 98 Cobra. All this talk from the SVT gang yet virtually no slips from the owners. They were in here in droves demanding owner slips for the ZL1, but a month on the street you are telling me these cars haven't hit the local unprepped tracks? Are they afraid to post them? I think that the expectation is so high that if owners don't get into the 11s they won't be posted.

[evolve]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I'd like to know where are all the timeslips from these mid 11 second 13 GT500s from the owners. I think I have seen 1 impressive slip in a month and another video of one be pounced on by a 98 Cobra. All this talk from the SVT gang yet virtually no slips from the owners. They were in here in droves demanding owner slips for the ZL1, but a month on the street you are telling me these cars haven't hit the local unprepped tracks? Are they afraid to post them? I think that the expectation is so high that if owners don't get into the 11s they won't be posted.

Ive seen about 4 posted by shops, 4 by magazine people, and 2 actual owners.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by evolve

Ive seen about 4 posted by shops, 4 by magazine people, and 2 actual owners.

Well that's 1 more owner run than I thought,

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Betiwin

Haha I didn't put 4300 number out there lol, im just guessing what the man was thinking.

Seriously tho, think about a ZL1 (4300) or a Shelby (4100) and then a Z06 with driver at 3380, insane they got the vette so light.

According to R&T it's around a 200lbs. difference. I could get it down to a 100lbs difference without sacrificing any creature comforts. So for all those saying the weight is a HUGE disadvantage...WRONG! Then up the PSI to GT500 levels or even less and advantage ZL1.

[evolve]

Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

Race weight meaning driver.This would put the Shelby at a little over 4k. Like the other guy said. Cars dont drive themselves

Yet Well, unless you count this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9ALh9lOMM&feature=youtu.be

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

There were 69 ZL1s built in 1969. It's rare, not legendary.

WRONG!!!

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by HpJunkie69

Race weight meaning driver.This would put the Shelby at a little over 4k. Like the other guy said. Cars dont drive themselves

Really???
Then I would expect consistency in ones post.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

WRONG!!!

How so?

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

How so?

1969 Camaro ZL1 Grumpy's Toy


Also, how many high performance all aluminum big blocks could you purchase from the factory in 1969?

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

1969 Camaro ZL1 Grumpy's Toy


Also, how many high performance all aluminum big blocks could you purchase from the factory in 1969?

That's the thing. You couldn't just order a ZL1 Camaro. It existed because people knew how to work the system.