2012 Camaro ZL1 vs. 2013 Shelby GT500-On Track

[nanokpsi]

Originally Posted by Fenderaddict2

The ZL1 is the better car. And that's why you should buy the GT500.

Just as the current Lambo Aventador is the best one yet, truly on par with Ferrari, it as a result has lost something. It makes every driver a hero rather than rewards true heroes. It has lost it essence. It is no longer an event. It is no longer bonkers. It is a car for men in suits. And it will be forgotten when the better one comes along.

The ZL1 is the first of a new breed of Ponycar. It will be bettered. In fact by breaking from its category and playing in other sandboxes it may already be bettered

The GT500 is insane. Think about it, a solid axle 200 MPH drag strip terror. It has a true Jekyll Hyde personality. It makes each and every drive an event. It, in the words of Capt. Slow, would put some fizz in your pants."

Just as I traded from very capable BMWs to a Boss and then questioned my sanity only to revel in the noise, speed and thrill later I think the car to lust after here is the Shelby. The car to buy if you must use it as a all in one daily driver is a Subaru or AMG Wagon.

I am totally with you. My Shelby has never seen a road course, nor a quarter mile track. It does have a set of R compound tires on it and goes WOT on a regualr basis. It is my daily drvier. I would imagine there are plenty of owners of both vehicles that are very simlar to me.

That being said, the car that is faster will always be more fun to drvie., and a 10+mph advantage in the traps is EVRY apparent behind the wheel. There is also some sense of satisfaction, to me at least, that knows you have most cars covered during these little "test of acceleration" we stumble across from time to time.

It's not about lap times or ETs for me, it is about having a car that really gets the blood pumping and poop shoot puckering a little when you hit the gas in traffic.

[LOWDOWN]

For those who think the Miata will conquer ANYONE, let me remind you:

http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...erformance.pdf

The SLOWEST time ever run @ Lightning Lap? Yup...Miata...something the Ford drag racers no doubt could replicate.

Part 2: Gee, Bob, you didn't want ALL the good news to come from ONE reliable source, did you?

Besides, unlike some from the Sand Very Tasty site, I don't normally post 10-15-20 times a day. I actually have a life...

Bologna? Correct. What wins at the strip is shown by the WIN light...and the quickest doesn't always light THAT bulb, do they, Bob?

Statistically, Yes. In Fact, No.

"Gentlemen, start your BENCHES!"

[Steve Dallas]

Originally Posted by SVTGOD

What kind of an automotive company advertises its weaknesses.

Chevy released it's 1/4 mile times.

I'd say honest ones do.

[FNBADAZ06]

Originally Posted by InfernoSS454

Ok I can't agree the zl1 is lighter and more hp than the cts v.

I would expect the ZL1 to be a tenth or two faster, and maybe 1-2 MPH...with equal traction and driver.

I DON'T see stock CTS-V's routinely in the 117-119 MPH trap speeds, and I see quite a few of them at the track....including fellow drag race friend's who own them.

[DanSS24]

We all knew what the outcome of this drag was gonna reveal. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the final test is gonna be a tie. Why? Cuz their gonna leave it up to the customers to have the last say. As it should be. Just my .02 cents.

[C5RocksC5]

Originally Posted by FNBADAZ06

2nd installment - drag race.
cliff notes :
ZL1 12.38@114.5 MPH
GT500 11.78@125 MPH

2nd installment - drag race 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 vs 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 - At The Strip - Automobile Magazine

both impressive for showroom stock cars. I don't think there is a question the Shelby will be much faster in a straight line no matter which magazine is doing the testing. Biased or not. The 3rd stage will be a win for the ZL1.

[C5RocksC5]

[QUOTE=Bob Cosby;5157842]Bologna. Drag racing is ALL ABOUT TIME SLIPS. Of course, this was said by the same folks that printed this yesterday...

QUOTE]

I hate to agree but I kind of feel that author seemed to care so much about the "time slip" yesterday and today, he is totally discounting it. I think of anything, it's the other way around. Driving in a roadcourse is not about the timeslip but rather the experience. Driving on a strip is about how fast you can get down the 1320, hence, the timeslip counts a lot. These two cars are awesome in their own way. I wish I could have both.

[cbass]

2nd installment - drag race.
cliff notes :
ZL1 12.38@114.5 MPH
GT500 11.78@125 MPH
2nd installment - drag race 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1 vs 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 - At The Strip - Automobile Magazine

It looks like the ZL1 is a low/mid 12 sec car with 12.4 being the magic number. Test after test has pinned it around 12.4 sec.

[strokerls1]

Chevrolet has an official trap speed of 119mph...How come every test I have seen has been 114-116mph...I think the long QC hold may have something to do with it. BTW 125mph is moving! Good job Ford

[richtor]

Originally Posted by cbass

It looks like the ZL1 is a low/mid 12 sec car with 12.4 being the magic number. Test after test has pinned it around 12.4 sec.

With great drivers in good conditions you will see the zl1 being faster consistently just as the z06 runs 11.3 or better with the above. The zl1 is a 12.0 to 12.2 car in the hands of the driver oem. High 11's with tires only. But it is far from the 11's all day long oem stock gm said it was going to be.

These times that the zl1 is getting are the exact same on the strip that the 11/12 gt500 pulled. I would have thought that gm would create something faster than the rival?

[Mr. Unassailable]

Originally Posted by Betiwin

Congrats to the camaro team on the handling victory. Annihilation I'm not so sure about lol. A victory tho no less.

agree.

I think its the same results that will be seen over and over. While the ZL1 is fully capable on the drag strip, it was aimed more towards the track. And while the GT500 is fully capable on the road course, it is more aimed towards the strip.

Good comment from the drag side of this "battle"


"Funny, when the ZL1 wins a 2+ mile track test by 7/10ths of a second, it is declared the obvious winner. When the Shelby wins a 1/4 mile drag by 5/10ths of a second and 11 MPH, all the "objective" auther has to say is they are both good cars... Wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that it is a Chevy ad on this page instead of a Ford ad?"

Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...#ixzz20LBfH3C2

[cbass]

But it is far from the 11's all day long oem stock gm said it was going to be.

That's what I am noticing. GM first said 12.0 all day. Then they made an 11.9 run. I have not seen the ZL1 break into the 11s on a test yet. The GT500 has broken into the 11s in pretty much every test.The times the ZL1 is running is boss 302 territory.

[A-little-perspective]

Originally Posted by cbass

That's what I am noticing. GM first said 12.0 all day. Then they made an 11.9 run. I have not seen the ZL1 break into the 11s on a test yet. The GT500 has broken into the 11s in pretty much every test.The times the ZL1 is running is boss 302 territory.

GM even said it would, "run 11-second quarter-miles all day long" as well.

[Slowmaro19]

Originally Posted by cbass

The times the ZL1 is running is boss 302 territory.

Yup.

Motor Trend ran a 12.3@115.8 with the Boss

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html