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06-29-2012, 06:49 PM | #590 | |
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The 2013 gt500 is holding up pretty good though I must admit. But even with 8k in extra performance options the ZL1 still beats it outright on some tracks. Then on tracks like laguna seca, it can barely beat the zl1 for 1 or 2 laps, then it's toast. |
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06-29-2012, 07:07 PM | #591 | |
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06-29-2012, 07:09 PM | #592 |
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I'm just going to say that I love both of these cars. If GM didn't have the Corvette as a halo, I have NO DOUBT that they would have put the 638 HP LS9 V8 to even the drag time numbers without thinking twice. I have massive respect for the Ford guys, they did an incredible job with that Mustang. And Kudos for GM for making a complete package, nice!
Hooray for American Muscle!
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06-29-2012, 07:10 PM | #593 |
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You thought you were buying a drag car?
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06-29-2012, 07:20 PM | #594 | |
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The GT500 is a Drag Strip Star, the ZL1 is the Road Course Star. The ZL1 is more comfortable apparently, the GT500 is less so. The GT500 has a much better interior materials and amenities, the ZL1 has more comfortable seats and is more roomy. Exterior looks are subjective as are the design of the interior. Camaro guys will buy the ZL1, Mustang guys will buy the GT500. |
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06-29-2012, 07:27 PM | #596 | |
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06-29-2012, 07:32 PM | #597 | |
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06-29-2012, 07:57 PM | #598 | |
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Base GT500 -$54,995 + 8,080= $63,075 SVTPP - $3,495 SVTTP _ $2,995 Recaro Seats - $1,595 MT Price as tested: ZL1/GT500 $56,365/$64,770 Difference of $8,405
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To me, radio- and heater-delete, lighter wheels, etc is more germane to drag-strip suitability than words spat out by General Motors telling me that the ZL-1 package will be all things to all people. YMMV
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06-29-2012, 08:29 PM | #602 |
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Ya all the stuff aside, everybody on this thread obviously remembers all the bashing on both sides. Here are some various ones I remember that went both ways in various forums and threads. Call me a liar or an instigator, I just have a good memory. Most of these are from members here over the last 6 months when everything was known tech wise.
-won't take turns over 5mph -won't break 12's -won't offset its weight -won't last motor wise; pop at 600whp -probably flipped over on the ring -won't put power down at all, the car needed grip not power -the zl1 will smoke it because the ford can't turn -the gt500 will destroy it on the strip -the zl1 will over heat too quickly -the gt500 wont have braking after 3 laps -the boss is as fast as the gt500 so zl1 will kill the gt500 -gas mileage doesn't matter, who cars -there's a huge price difference but gas mileage doesnt matter -the mustangs interior is absolute crap and flimsy -the camaro is impossible to see out of -the gt500 has crappy wheels -the gt500 is way too loud to drive everyday -the zl1 is grandmas cushy cruiser the gt500 is the coolest thing ever -the gt500 is a horse and buggy, the zl1 will destroy it -the zl1 will be a drivers race against a gt500 at a drag strip so they are even and since the gt500 is harder to drive without spinning it's tires, the zl1 will win more often -it can't go 200 that's a marketing ploy -it won't trap over 120 because it won't get grip -it's a one trick pony -it can't stop -it's a shitbox So on. Its a pointless mission to wanna keep a discussion like this free of mud slinging but honestly, I think anybody who says very few people on this site have flung crap at the cobra or zl1 in the past would be lying to themselves. I got over flinging crap for the most part about a year ago and just decided it wasn't worth it. Now I'm seeing it's not even worth correcting improper statements; what's the point. Let's just all keep the past behind us and keep the discussion more or less bash free. Both cars are amazing values in the new car market, congrats to all the buyers of each.
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