MotorTrend Pits the ZL1 vs GT500 on the Street, Dragstrip, and Racetrack

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

Dude duct tape is too expensive, I just use painters tape. Glue? Man nobody in there right mind would use something that permanent on a ford, if you can't fix it or repair it daily, why buy a ford?

10,000 miles? Dude come on no car goes that far on one of those, I got about 500 miles out of my last one, it tore through the floor pan and almost killed me haha, I love my ford cause it's such a death trap; it's like playing Russian roulette every time I get in it.


10,000 mile drivelines, pft. What next, 100,000 mile warranty's? Ha that'll never happen

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by swizlstik

Will never be able to top the Camaro's sexy hips. They still get me everytime I see one.

Ok I'll show my age here... Camaros are designed like Marilyn Monroe, sexy and curvy. Mustangs were designed like Twiggy, flat, straight and homely. For you younger members google those names and see what I mean.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Your argument just lost any credibility when you said the 550 hp gt500 vs the 420hp camaro was not fair because of the hp difference, but the 580 hp camaro to the 444 hp boss was fair.

And anyone else believe this is not a fair comparison bc one is 13 and one is a12?

Thanks for reading properly

The Camaro guys thought it was completely unfair to test the GT500 against the SS, but thought it was completely logical to test the Boss against the ZL1, then a you had some people saying it wasn't fair to compare the 662HP 2013 Shelby to the 2012 ZL1 because it was a different model year, forget the fact that they came out at roughly the same time.

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Ok I'll show my age here... Camaros are designed like Marilyn Monroe, sexy and curvy. Mustangs were designed like Twiggy, flat, straight and homely. For you younger members google those names and see what I mean.

But Marilyn Monroe wasn't morbidly obese she wasn't skinny but she wasn't morbidly obese

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

But Marilyn Monroe wasn't morbidly obese she wasn't skinny but she wasn't morbidly obese

But she had the curves in all the right places, just like our Camaros...

[Deki]

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Thanks for reading properly

The Camaro guys thought it was completely unfair to test the GT500 against the SS, but thought it was completely logical to test the Boss against the ZL1, then a you had some people saying it wasn't fair to compare the 662HP 2013 Shelby to the 2012 ZL1 because it was a different model year, forget the fact that they came out at roughly the same time.

YOU!!! GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR LOGIC!!! AND COMMON SENSE!!! ...and please allow the mindless bickering to continue...

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

But she had the curves in all the right places, just like our Camaros...

Okay so the Camaro is a obese Marylin Monroe. For the record I'm f***ing with you...

[Good2go]

Big girls are WAY more fun to ride!

[tt335ci03cobra]

Big girls can be a lot of fun, but I love a smaller girl with some curves. Picture a girl about 5'4 with let's say 125-130lbs on her in the hips and up top but not too much in the waiste. Much better than that same girl on a diet to look like a magazine chick that's 5'6 and 115lbs. My $.02

[Camaro_hx]

both r sexy.. and results as expected.

[Camaro_hx]

Originally Posted by tt335ci03cobra

Big girls can be a lot of fun, but I love a smaller girl with some curves. Picture a girl about 5'4 with let's say 125-130lbs on her in the hips and up top but not too much in the waiste. Much better than that same girl on a diet to look like a magazine chick that's 5'6 and 115lbs. My $.02

^^^
LOL!

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Good2go

Big girls are WAY more fun to ride!

Yeah until your friends catch you, kinda like a scooter, or a Kia.

[LeviG]

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby

Your going to make a pit stop(s) in a 50 lap race to let the motor cool and/or change a set of stock tires? How long would that take?

My bad. I thought we were talking about a longer race than that. I was thinking of a pit stop maybe every 50 laps.

However, you wouldn't necessarily have to change the tires if you had another set of wheels with fresh tires already on them. But otherwise, you're right. My local tire store takes like an hour to change my tires. The race would be over by then!

[LeviG]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Wrong! Most questioned it as well, due to price. When you assum...

Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Well actually many thought it was FAIR because the BOSS 302 is Ford's Track Ready Mustang. Just saying, and only a stupid person would take a supercharged car to a track. The ZL1/GT500 can be track READY all they want but the 1LE/BOSS 302 will/are the true track stars because the are not supercharged.

This is how it went:

GT500 vs SS - Not Fair (horsepower difference)

ZL1 vs Boss 302 LS - Fair (Ford's track Mustang vs Chevy's track Camaro)

ZL1 vs 2013 GT500 - Not Fair (the GT500 is a 2013 MY and ZL1 is a 2012 MY)

I gotta say, I honestly thought that comparing the ZL1 to the Boss was just stupid. I think the reason that ever happened in the first place was because the GT500 had'nt come out yet and people were just busting to compare the highest performance Camaro to the highest performance Mustang. It just didn't seem right to compare a 580 HP supercharged car to a, what, 440 HP car. I mean, serioulsy. A 140 HP difference and you're comparing these? While you're at it lets run my '95 Integra GSR against an NSX and compare the two to see which one is better! LOL

This whole argument of who thought what was fair is dumb because in the end, you're both just going call each other liars when you both say you thought this was unfair but that was fair. Its rediculous.

And where is the rule that says only N/A cars can be track ready? You know what a supercharger does? IT MAKES YOU GO FASTER! Which, when you're racing, on a track, is arguably a good thing. And besides, the boys who designed the ZL1 and GT500, who I'm willing to bet have better education and experience in racing cars AT A TRACK than you, dont seem to have a problem supercharging these cars and calling them track ready.

"Only a stupid person would take a supercharged car to a track"?? You obviously dont understand the concept of a race.