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evolve · 07-16-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LimaCharlie

As a GM guy, I'm happy to see you chose the ZL1 over the GT500. You can't go wrong with either car though.

Agreed! At least its not a BMW

IcePick06 · 07-16-2012, 02:03 PM

congrats my friend and welcome to the Club

eolson · 07-16-2012, 06:39 PM

Correct, the ZL1 is clearly the better daily driver, and the GT500 is clearly the faster more fun car to drive while going fast around all types of Race tracks in the direct comparisons. Erik

Paulg680 · 07-16-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eolson

Correct, the ZL1 is clearly the better daily driver, and the GT500 is clearly the faster more fun car to drive while going fast around all types of Race tracks in the direct comparisons. Erik

Whatever you say Henry...

RoketRdr · 07-16-2012, 07:56 PM

ONCE AGAIN a thread on a CAMARO forum is wrecked by FORD enthusiasts. Way to go mods. Just keep letting your own front porch get crapped on over and over again.

Steve Dallas · 07-16-2012, 09:37 PM

Let's see, in every direct comparison so far, the ZL1 has been given the nod at the twisty tracks. The GT500 pulled a faster SINGLE lap then had major brake fade (to address one Ford guy above), and could never duplicate or even come close to that lap. The ZL1 was consistent and fast throughout. And, it was also on a relatively smooth track.

I want to see head to head at something like Nurburgring...where the LRA will just kill the Mustang.

I'll give the Shelby a nod at the better engine and faster 1/4 mile times... definitely good car for that.

HPT BANDIT · 07-16-2012, 09:45 PM

2013 GT500 Brake Fade = Stock ZL1 runs 11's all day.
Both over exaggerated.

2010-1SS-IBM · 07-17-2012, 06:17 AM

Glad you like your choice. Sorry you're getting trolled by Ford fanboys.

Norm Peterson · 07-17-2012, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Paulg680

I couldn't be happier...

Key thought there.

Reasons and explanations don't matter once you can say that.

Norm

A-little-perspective · 07-17-2012, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 2010-1SS-IBM

Glad you like your choice. Sorry you're getting trolled by Ford fanboys.

It is a shame. But to be honest, it seems like the intent of the post was to incite people around here, which it did.

Why? All cars have issues, even the ZL1. Buying a car based on magazine reviews is for people who want the latest and greatest, who then move on to the next magazine favored car in a few years.

*radz28* · 07-17-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by eolson

Correct, the ZL1 is clearly the better daily driver, and the GT500 is clearly the faster more fun car to drive while going fast around all types of Race tracks in the direct comparisons. Erik

The couple faster track times it's posted are mostly by tenths, despite 80+ more horse' and a couple hundred pounds less weight. Don't hate because there are more comments that ZL1 is closer to a sports car and actually elevating the segment higher than that imp.

72MachOne99GT · 07-17-2012, 10:23 AM

I agree with you about elevating the segment, demanding more from the car, that's good for competition.

What I'm not particularly fond of is the "despite 80 horse only a few truths victory" part. Prior to the release of the numbers on the gt500 it'd lose everything. Then, it was painfully obvious that ford would never get their live axle 662 hp gt500 to run anywhere remotely close to the zl1 with it's vastly superior suspension.

Now that it's nearly equal, and in some places better on a road course, the mood has tuned to justifying the zl1s defeat by saying it's not large enough to be impressive considering the power advantage.

evolve · 07-17-2012, 10:33 AM

I say good buy. Either way you're winning for buying a beast of a car; be it a track or drag strip.

BowtieBelle · 07-17-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by evolve

I say good buy. Either way you're winning for buying a beast of a car; be it a track or drag strip.

07-16-2012, 06:39 PM	#17
eolson eolson Drives: 2006 premium Package Mustang GT cou Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Northville, MI Posts: 249	Correct, the ZL1 is clearly the better daily driver, and the GT500 is clearly the faster more fun car to drive while going fast around all types of Race tracks in the direct comparisons. Erik __________________ 2006 Prem Pkg Mustang GT coupe. Saleen SC,10psi, 454rwhp,442rwtq, Complete Steeda/H&R, suspension change out, with weight loss, Techco Watts link, Stoptech big brakes, Race clutch, Alum. flywheel, Alum 1 pc driveshaft, 9x18,10x18 chrome bullit wheels, 285/40/18,255/45/18 nitto 555 tires. 3545 lbs currently. New car scent air freshener.

07-16-2012, 09:37 PM	#20
Steve Dallas Commits weekly crime Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Camano Island, WA Posts: 9,513 View My Garage	Let's see, in every direct comparison so far, the ZL1 has been given the nod at the twisty tracks. The GT500 pulled a faster SINGLE lap then had major brake fade (to address one Ford guy above), and could never duplicate or even come close to that lap. The ZL1 was consistent and fast throughout. And, it was also on a relatively smooth track. I want to see head to head at something like Nurburgring...where the LRA will just kill the Mustang. I'll give the Shelby a nod at the better engine and faster 1/4 mile times... definitely good car for that. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LT - Blue Barchetta IV I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar. Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime.

07-16-2012, 09:45 PM	#21
HPT BANDIT Drives: 1999 Ford Lightning Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 86	2013 GT500 Brake Fade = Stock ZL1 runs 11's all day. Both over exaggerated. Last edited by HPT BANDIT; 07-16-2012 at 10:03 PM.

07-17-2012, 10:33 AM	#27
evolve Drives: 03 Cobra Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cyber Space Posts: 508	I say good buy. Either way you're winning for buying a beast of a car; be it a track or drag strip. __________________ 2003 Cobra (Stock Motor/Boost Only) 640rwhp/ 550rwtq on 93... Well over 700rwhp on CORN

07-16-2012, 02:03 PM	#16
IcePick06 Drives: '12 AGM ZL1 (SOLD); '07 Ducati 1098 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tha OCizzle Posts: 731	congrats my friend and welcome to the Club

07-16-2012, 07:56 PM	#19
RoketRdr Drives: 2010 Duramax; 2012 CTS-V Coupe Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 387	ONCE AGAIN a thread on a CAMARO forum is wrecked by FORD enthusiasts. Way to go mods. Just keep letting your own front porch get crapped on over and over again.

07-17-2012, 06:17 AM	#22
2010-1SS-IBM Drives: 1998 Nissan, 2010 Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 827	Glad you like your choice. Sorry you're getting trolled by Ford fanboys.

07-17-2012, 10:23 AM	#26
72MachOne99GT Anthrax Popcorn User Drives: 2013 GT500 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,286	I agree with you about elevating the segment, demanding more from the car, that's good for competition. What I'm not particularly fond of is the "despite 80 horse only a few truths victory" part. Prior to the release of the numbers on the gt500 it'd lose everything. Then, it was painfully obvious that ford would never get their live axle 662 hp gt500 to run anywhere remotely close to the zl1 with it's vastly superior suspension. Now that it's nearly equal, and in some places better on a road course, the mood has tuned to justifying the zl1s defeat by saying it's not large enough to be impressive considering the power advantage.