Dissapointed...

[scrming]

Originally Posted by HRD_WRK

Anyone can have fun racing any 5th Gen at the track. It doesn't have to be the fastest, weigh the least, or cost the most. And anyone can win bracket/index racing- because even the best aren't always the best-they're human too.
It sure beats working all the time or watching re-runs on TV.

Take care,
Tim

I'm living proof of that.. I've had a blast bracket racing the last two weekend!

First weekend i actually picked up two trophies! LOL

[SC2150]

jrpxxii, you guys on the bikes are crazy!!! LOL! You more guts than I do for sure.

The weight is an issue with any car, and weight transfer just as important.

every 100# is a tenth in the 1/4 mile on average until you get down into the 2,000# range.

Yes, were proud of the girls.....growing up they were planning the next race instead of hanging out at the mall getting into trouble. They were doing all maintance on the cars and soon swapping motors/trans/etc. They used to jump in the race rig (longer than a avg semi rig) and go off in the summer for 1-2 months traveling from race to race by themselves much of the time. They would drive into a track in the big rig and get out and set up and the guys would gather around wondering where the men were...."you drive that big rig?", etc.

They learned alot from some of the best that raced for us over the years as well so their training came from world champs and most the drivers you see on ESPN are personal friends of all now so it has helpped them when needed, expecially the Coughlin family.

And the lifetime of this is alot of what we bring to our customers and I think most dont realize all our background.

Back to drag racing in general, anyone that needs tips, suggestions, technique help, etc. let me know and I'm always willing to share. And those testing & tuning.....start running brackets and make some $$ tp pay for your hobby. Scrmng has the skill, vehicle, and passion so we need to get him out there running the big$ footbrake races. Many are $5-10-50K plus to win. Race against the best and you learn quickly. Stay in T&T and its fun, but difficult to hone your skills.

The nice thing about bracket racing is it does not matter if you run 15 seconds or 9 seconds...it is an even playing field coming down to you the driver.

from staging exactley the same way every time, finding your spot on the tree, to determining what to dial and playing the stripe.

[DandD]

Hey I like where this thread is going, first HRD_WRK great post, thats a very similar plan plan that I'm going with, making changes each winter till I get the car where I want it. So far I've got the headers,intake,tune,trailing arms toe rods,1 pc driveshaft,1400hp axles,3.91 gear,and the trans rebuilt. My best before the gear was 12.508 and after the gear I was hoping to get down to the 12.3xx range, but the DA when I went back was like 3000 and the best I could get out of it that day was 12.70. This winter I plan on converting the trans to an auto 4L80E, doing a cam package install, and changing the rear end, I plan on keeping this car for good so I will be taking my time building it and enjoying it at the track, which brings me to my second thought. John, congratulations on those trophys you've won there, but I'm coming looking for you bud...LOL, I'm planning on being out there this Sunday if it stays 90 or below, I just can't take the heat when it gets hotter than that. So hopefully I'll see you out there on Sunday so we can catch up on the BS.

[malave7567]

Originally Posted by gr8daneh

4500 ft., 94 degrees, 20% RH Car# 703 in the right lane on the stubs.

I now know that the 22's I am running are costing me alot of potential. My 60's are crap...With my mods and 20's, I should be in the high twelves. This was my first test and tune in this car. 6 runs. Here are the two best. Couldn't break into the 13's.

the 60' times aren't helping you right now (practice is going to make perfect with those), but neither is that elevation and temperature! yikes, 4500 ft and 94 degrees! Track I run out is 1150 ft. or so above sea level, and usually 100-105 degrees this time of year. My first two runs were HORRIBLE, and I ran 16-17 seconds. By the end of the night, I could run 14.7-14.9 sec all day. Still need tons more practice.

[Pro Stock John]

My 2010 is not the heaviest vehicle I've ever raced but it's the second heaviest.

My now-sold 2006 TBSS 1SS RWD was heavier. I did get that tank to run 13.84 stock and 13.73 with a cold air.

I got my last 4th gen down to 3300 raceweight with a stock k-member and front end. Full weight raceweights for the 4th gens ranged from 3590 to 3800.

I haven't weighed my car but I'll assume somewhere around 4150 with me in it (I'm 200). I'd like to get to 3800 raceweight, so at some point I'll play with skinnies.

My 2nd 4th gen (this one got the most changes over 10 years)

~2000


2002? 28's in back, in between hoods:


28W, YSi blower:




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as bought, without me (previous owner had gutted it)






10.008@133, 1.38, then drove it home 45 miles:

[jrpxxii]

Originally Posted by SC2150

jrpxxii, you guys on the bikes are crazy!!! LOL! You more guts than I do for sure.

The weight is an issue with any car, and weight transfer just as important.

every 100# is a tenth in the 1/4 mile on average until you get down into the 2,000# range.

Yes, were proud of the girls.....growing up they were planning the next race instead of hanging out at the mall getting into trouble. They were doing all maintance on the cars and soon swapping motors/trans/etc. They used to jump in the race rig (longer than a avg semi rig) and go off in the summer for 1-2 months traveling from race to race by themselves much of the time. They would drive into a track in the big rig and get out and set up and the guys would gather around wondering where the men were...."you drive that big rig?", etc.

They learned alot from some of the best that raced for us over the years as well so their training came from world champs and most the drivers you see on ESPN are personal friends of all now so it has helpped them when needed, expecially the Coughlin family.

And the lifetime of this is alot of what we bring to our customers and I think most dont realize all our background.

Back to drag racing in general, anyone that needs tips, suggestions, technique help, etc. let me know and I'm always willing to share. And those testing & tuning.....start running brackets and make some $$ tp pay for your hobby. Scrmng has the skill, vehicle, and passion so we need to get him out there running the big$ footbrake races. Many are $5-10-50K plus to win. Race against the best and you learn quickly. Stay in T&T and its fun, but difficult to hone your skills.

The nice thing about bracket racing is it does not matter if you run 15 seconds or 9 seconds...it is an even playing field coming down to you the driver.

from staging exactley the same way every time, finding your spot on the tree, to determining what to dial and playing the stripe.

This is exactly my plan as I think I can get my car dialed in to run that perfect number every time as this new Holley Dominator EFI is absolutely awesome with all the parameters you can adjust and with some time and testing Im pretty confident I can dial the car back to be really competitive and be able to crank it up to go fast.

[SC2150]

John, I admired that car for years!!!

Anyway, if quicker ET's are the goals our stall converters will knock .5-.7 sec off your times with nothing else (traction limited of course).

[E.T.]

Went to the track for the first time last weekend. It was awesome! DA was around 2900 and I managed to run 13.02 @ 109. Like everyone else said, it's been so hot and humid. I want to go back, but I figure it's pointless until we get some better temps. That, and I don't want to burn out my P-zeros all at once. I made 14 passes the other night, and did almost as many burnouts

Originally Posted by Quick

Weighed mine @ Memphis....3850 without driver. wish I could trim a couple hundred pounds.

Weighed my car the other day, too. It was 3880 lbs with about 1/4 tank of gas and no driver.

[3rdgen3]

I ran 13.1 @ 109mph, all bone stock 2012 2SS LS3 M6 just last week? Only had 3000km's on the car, lol. DA was 2200 that day and track temps were over 100* with the humidity.

Im hoping for high 12's in better air

[MudderFinger]

I went to the track last friday night for TnT and had a blast! After my first pass they tried to shut me down and said I had to have roll cage, and I said but I have a roll cage and they said ohh, but you need a fire suit, and I said hold on and went and got one out of the race trailer, then they said ok your good.

I beat four mustangs like they are stepchilds, LOL. Then a 2003 Mustang pulled up in staging beside me, then he got of the car and ask the staff guy in staging to please not make him run against me, the guy laughed and said ok, so he sent me through the tunnel by myself and put him up against a import. I just looked over and did this whats up? Don't be scared.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by DandD

Hey I like where this thread is going, first HRD_WRK great post, thats a very similar plan plan that I'm going with, making changes each winter till I get the car where I want it. So far I've got the headers,intake,tune,trailing arms toe rods,1 pc driveshaft,1400hp axles,3.91 gear,and the trans rebuilt. My best before the gear was 12.508 and after the gear I was hoping to get down to the 12.3xx range, but the DA when I went back was like 3000 and the best I could get out of it that day was 12.70. This winter I plan on converting the trans to an auto 4L80E, doing a cam package install, and changing the rear end, I plan on keeping this car for good so I will be taking my time building it and enjoying it at the track, which brings me to my second thought. John, congratulations on those trophys you've won there, but I'm coming looking for you bud...LOL, I'm planning on being out there this Sunday if it stays 90 or below, I just can't take the heat when it gets hotter than that. So hopefully I'll see you out there on Sunday so we can catch up on the BS.

Working Sunday... however, I'm toying with the idea of try to sneak out to Milan tomorrow night...

Won't be able to make the Lapeer on the 5th for the Big Trophy Sunday, but am hoping to make the one on Sept 23rd...

[DandD]

Ok we'll miss you on Sunday, something you may be interested in too Sept 14 &15 at Mid Michigan Motorplex in Stanton they are having the pure stock races. Donna and I are planning on being there.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by DandD

Ok we'll miss you on Sunday, something you may be interested in too Sept 14 &15 at Mid Michigan Motorplex in Stanton they are having the pure stock races. Donna and I are planning on being there.

Hmmmmm.... Don't think can pass for stock. LOL

Oh... And I'm not old muscle car either!LOL.

[Quick]

Originally Posted by SC2150

John, I admired that car for years!!!

Anyway, if quicker ET's are the goals our stall converters will knock .5-.7 sec off your times with nothing else (traction limited of course).

What stall would you recommend for a daily driver that has a few bolt-ons?I dont want a huge stall where you have to rev the car to the high heavens at a red light to get it to move.I thought I wanted a 2800 but I keep reading where 3000-3200's are streetable.
I just want something to help launch the car and get the 60' times down a little but still be able to let the wife drive the car. I was debating converter or gears as my next mod but i'm thinking gears wont get me 5 tenths off my 1/4 times...lol.I do have a set of drag radials on 18" wheels to help it hook.The car will always be na but thinking a cam install would be nice this winter...pm me your thoughts and a price on the stall so I can get this installed before fall weather gets here....thanks,Quick.