RX Supercharger 13.12 @ 109 mph 3lbs Boost

[Superfreak]

Originally Posted by V6owner

I was simply relaying what I saw on my gauge...

I understand. You made an amazing pass and I am not trying to take anything from you. All I am trying to state that it is not realistic to make that pass at 3 psi of boost. Your gauge is most likely not accurate but your original post topic makes it seem that your car defies physics and "when it really makes 6 psi of boost" (as it is already most likely making) that it will be even faster and will be a 115 mph car which will not happen.

[MrGood]

Originally Posted by SC2150

We are generally understating and over performing, but we need some more runs to give more examples...and a video of the boost guage like Baylors....now Baylor is the only one running the big pulley right now and meth inj is needed for sure.

C5 fest is near, so we should see plenty of runs. In Gretchens and Smokes, we beat every V8 mustang and camaro we ran except some really built stangs that smoked us.

I've got the meth I believe I'm the only supercharger with it installed now right? Problem is. That darn pulley I'm waiting on is killing me

[Superfreak]

Originally Posted by SC2150

We are generally understating and over performing, but we need some more runs to give more examples...and a video of the boost guage like Baylors....now Baylor is the only one running the big pulley right now and meth inj is needed for sure.

C5 fest is near, so we should see plenty of runs. In Gretchens and Smokes, we beat every V8 mustang and camaro we ran except some really built stangs that smoked us.

So you are claiming your supercharger system makes 100+ wheel hp at 3 psi of boost with no other power adders on pump fuel???????

I guess anyone can claim anything. It was a great pass and hats off to you and your kit. But claiming you do this at 3 psi with no other power adders, on pump fuel and with a messed up tune running 10:1 AFR is a bit far fetched. Sorry.

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by SC2150

I smell a troll.....only a handfull of posts, many just to cause trouble and in this thread???

His first post 8 months ago:

Originally Posted by Superfreak

Good question. I am a newb and would like to know more about headers as well. Anyone with any good advice?

Apparently in eight months he's gone from not knowing much about headers to becoming very knowledgeable about boosted engines.

Originally Posted by SC2150

The kid di awesome, and he is not BS'ng anyone. His dang installer was there with him, and the standard pully is only good for 5-6# max, so 3-4 is avg.

Exactly.. The system peaks at 5-6 psi but most of the time it's going to be between 3-4 psi. Sooooo when you're racing down the drag strip and glance at your boost gauge, among other gauges you're not likely to see the peak number. Like I've said before, if you look at the video that I posted, I peak at 10 psi but that's really fast, most of the time the boost is 5-8

[Superfreak]

Originally Posted by SC2150

I smell a troll.....only a handfull of posts, many just to cause trouble and in this thread???

I think a IP check is needed.

The kid di awesome, and he is not BS'ng anyone. His dang installer was there with him, and the standard pully is only good for 5-6# max, so 3-4 is avg.

Ask other shere with the system.

Troll I have owned and had many cars tuned. This v6 camaro is new to me. You don't have to be a troll or rocket scientist to know when something stinks. Sorry cant change your mind about me but I am just raising a point and have i given ur sc kit props for a great pass. You explain to me how 3 psi of boost can make the same car pick up 10 mph. That simple. Teach me

[Superfreak]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

Exactly.. The system peaks at 5-6 psi but most of the time it's going to be between 3-4 psi. Sooooo when you're racing down the drag strip and glance at your boost gauge, among other gauges you're not likely to see the peak number. Like I've said before, if you look at the video that I posted, I peak at 10 psi but that's really fast, most of the time the boost is 5-8

hello. Most people understand that a vortech blower is proportional to rpm. How can the same setup make 3psi at redline on one car and then 10 psi at redline on another? It will make peak boost at redline 10 psi then fall to 5 after the shift then climb to 6 then 7 then 8 then 9 then 10 then shift. And repeat. I don't know why you think i am something more than someone that is questioning simple math and logic. I am sorry no one can explain this except for a broken boost gauge but keep the bs going and to make people believe that it was done on 3psi of boost is totally crazy. Sorry. I am done with this comedy. Call it what you want and claim what u want. I would love to know technically how you can achieve this. Please teach me

[BaylorCamaro]

pretty sure we're not saying it PEAKED at 3 psi of boost, BUT that V6owner SAW the boost gauge read at 3 psi when he looked at it. I dunno, that's my take on it.

[Superfreak]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

pretty sure we're not saying it PEAKED at 3 psi of boost, BUT that V6owner SAW the boost gauge read at 3 psi when he looked at it. I dunno, that's my take on it.

That's TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the original post and what has been claimed throughout the entire thread. He could have glanced at the boost gauge at 4000 rpms and saw 3 psi of boost. That is believeable and realistic but not 3 psi at redline which is what is being claimed.

[SIXJAK]

Originally Posted by Superfreak

That's TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the original post and what has been claimed throughout the entire thread. He could have glanced at the boost gauge at 4000 rpms and saw 3 psi of boost. That is believeable and realistic but not 3 psi at redline which is what is being claimed.

Ehhhh that's not what I got out of it. What I got out of it is that they didn't have enough fuel in their car-keep the fuel level low-less weight. I think you're getting too hung up on the whole 3psi thing. It is quite possible that 2/3-3/4 of this run was done at 3psi and may have peaked at 5-6 psi.

Neither the owner or the builder from what I've read are trying to hold fast to the point that this car ran the time it did on just 3 #'s of boost or that it peaked at only 3 #'s of boost. I think they're saying if they could have run at higher boost they feel like they could have done better. That doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to me.

Baylor can run 10 #'s of boost because he has a 10# pulley. Same Vortec V3 head unit, different pulley. Does that make sense?

It was a great run.

[J-Rod6410]

Originally Posted by Superfreak

hello. Most people understand that a vortech blower is proportional to rpm. How can the same setup make 3psi at redline on one car and then 10 psi at redline on another? It will make peak boost at redline 10 psi then fall to 5 after the shift then climb to 6 then 7 then 8 then 9 then 10 then shift. And repeat. I don't know why you think i am something more than someone that is questioning simple math and logic. I am sorry no one can explain this except for a broken boost gauge but keep the bs going and to make people believe that it was done on 3psi of boost is totally crazy. Sorry. I am done with this comedy. Call it what you want and claim what u want. I would love to know technically how you can achieve this. Please teach me

You're definetely too hung up on the 3psi deal. It peaks at 6 momentarily but usually peaks at 5. The other Camaro (Baylor camaro) has a different pulley set-up that peaks at 10 psi. If you go and read my other posts in this thread I explain several times why the boost gauge and wideband were both off. Simply put the car was running on fumes. This ecm works different than others and shuts down the power when fuel is out since it runs on a high pressure fuel system upwards of 500-600 psi of fuel. The car lost a little power on this run due to the fuel issue. Also this run the car finally hooked completely but ran only .02 faster than the previous run where he spun in 1st and 2nd thats how I know he lost power. Simple math. The 13.12 run should of been .2 faster than the 13.14 run since we gained .1 on the 60 ft. one tenth on the 60 ft equals 2-3 tenths on your total time(e.t.) So this run should have been a 12.9x if it would have had the same power as the previous run.

But for you naysayers if you dont wanna believe it then dont. Point taken. But do know we're gonna go back to the track soon and I may try my 45 series tires and see if that helps with the traction issue.

[J-Rod6410]

Here's a vid of me driving. 1st and second runs. 13.38 and 13.32 if I remember correctly. Alex has the slips so I'm not sure. But he did drive it better than me this time haha! The big signs with the timers were down for the night so no times show up. We had to go up to the tower to retreive the timeslips. I didnt record Alex's runs since I was helping him to make sure he did a good enough burnout since we were having traction issues out the box.

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by Superfreak

I am sorry no one can explain this

I can explain this, it's called having reading comprehension and clearly you lack it. Other wise you'd know the 10 psi I was making was from the OD pulley and V6owner has the stock pulley.


Just in case you missed it again I've color coded the corresponding psi/pulley with the forum user, little trick I picked up in fourth grade.

[V6owner]

@SuperFreak.


It clearly says in my OP that I only made 3lbs boost and NEVER hit max boost. I dunno how you got on a rant with this. Its in bold, underlined, and red lol

[scrming]

Ok... first off.. I am NO TROLL! Those that don't know me I was one of the EARLY LLT owners and did a LOT of preliminary work with the LLT... so yeah, i'm know troll and I know my shit....

That being said... Superfreak has a very valid point! The title of this thread is absolutely misleading! Tracy has even admitted he has a 5 to 6 PSI pully. I don't care what the boost gauge showed, the car did not pickup up 100+ HP with a 3 PSI centrifugal setup...

Not doubting what V6owner saw on his boost gauge... he saw what he saw... but that doesn't mean that's actually what was going on! You know, my Flex doesn't even have a boost gauge! So, those that are arguing "well, he only say 3 PSI"... well, that' like me posting my Flex went 13.2 on Friday with NO BOOST!

So sorry, i'm with Superfreak on this one... he is standing on the principal that the title is terribly misleading and there is no way the run was only on 3 PSI. And I agree with him.... PERIOD!