Max V6 RWHP Without Super/Turbocharger?

[AdamChoudhry]

Originally Posted by scrming

I'm still trying to figure out why an SS would be an impractical daily driver, but yet a V6 would be a practical one?

Honestly, i'm the LAST person that would start V8 vs V6 bash-fest... But the OP is seriously inviting it, with that comment, especially since he's asking about modding a V6 also... I mean I'm a die hard V6 guy and hate the V8 vs V6 thing... but SS impractical but modding a V6 is practical? That's a pretty huge stretch even in my warped mind...

I have to disagree. I'm paying less than half the insurance every month, spent much less on mods than I would have spent if I opted for the SS, and I'm averaging 35 mpg.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by AdamChoudhry

I have to disagree. I'm paying less than half the insurance every month, spent much less on mods than I would have spent if I opted for the SS, and I'm averaging 35 mpg.

Since I owned a 2010 V6, for some reason I have a very hard time believing either one of your claims.

[AdamChoudhry]

I'm a 20 year old male driving a car with full coverage. My estimate for the SS was 8200 a year and the V6 is 3800 a year which is with a discount for being a deans list college student. Also, I live in rural NJ where my drive to school, work etc. is flat open roads with no traffic or lights.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by AdamChoudhry

I'm a 20 year old male driving a car with full coverage. My estimate for the SS was 8200 a year and the V6 is 3800 a year which is with a discount for being a deans list college student. Also, I live in rural NJ where my drive to school, work etc. is flat open roads with no traffic or lights.

sorry to get personal. but its a lot easier to put the car under your parents insurance. i give you a lot of respect if you are paying 100% of it though.

[AdamChoudhry]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

sorry to get personal. but its a lot easier to put the car under your parents insurance. i give you a lot of respect if you are paying 100% of it though.

Yeah I am aware but I'm trying to build my credit history and going on my parents insurance policy wasn't really an option.

[scrming]

sorry I don't always equate impractical with unaffordable... my bad...

when someone says impractical i think baby seats and hauling plywood... LOL

[AdamChoudhry]

Originally Posted by scrming

sorry I don't always equate impractical with unaffordable... my bad...

when someone says impractical i think baby seats and hauling plywood... LOL

Gotcha

[SC2150]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I agree if you are planning of modding for more power anyway all the reasons for buying the V6 in the first place are gone. As soon as you spend 6 or 7 thousand in mods to the V 6 you have lost the price difference and probably still be short of the 426HP of the SS. Plus you get better suspension with the SS.

$6k in SC exceeds the SS hp by close to 50 hp with the V6......not in anyway a cut to the SS, as for the same $$ we make the SS 600 plus.

[KMPrenger]

Back to your original post.

Off the top of my head, here is what you can do that isn't too costly and is easy to install for the LFX V6:

Air intake
Ported TB
Tune
exhaust

A stock automatic LFX should dyno around 255rwhp stock. After these mods, you should have a gain of around 20 or so rwhp. Off peak you should gain a bit more than that.

The LLT engine in the 2010 and 2011s has a few more basic bolt ons like manifold insulator and ported manifold that do no apply to the LFX engine so if you hear about them, you can disregard them. You will also want a catch can.

Beyond that there isn't much else besides forced induction. You could cut off the rear cats to pick up a little more horsepower, or wait for SOLO to finish up their high flow cats + resonator for the LFX which would probably net you an additional 10rwhp.

MACE is also finishing up cams for the LLT. Not sure if these would work on an LFX, but I don't see why not either. This looks like it could be worth 40 to 50 hp gains....but of course this is a MUCH more involved and costly mod.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by SC2150

$6k in SC exceeds the SS hp by close to 50 hp with the V6......not in anyway a cut to the SS, as for the same $$ we make the SS 600 plus.

But that 6K still does not get you the SS suspension or Brakes.

[67 GTO]

Originally Posted by anti-ricer

Hey guys, I got to thinking about how impractical an SS would be for an every day city car, and it looks like an LS or LT is the way to go. Especially since it will be my first car. I was wondering how much rear wheel horsepower a V6 could get without super or turbo charging it. So just with simple/easy modifications. Thanks!

A SS is certainly not impractical as a DD unless initial price, insurance and if a little extra fuel costs are a concern.

My bolt-on V6 is plenty fast for me. It would have cost me $7.5K more for a SS at the time, cash money that I just didn't want to spend then. I have about $3k in performance mods now spread out over 3 years and installed when funds became available.

My bolt-on car will never reach the performance level of a stock SS but I can hang with them now and again.

I think some V6 folks just like their car especially after doing many cosmetic mods and going a little faster is a bonus.

Same can be said for the the V6 folks who are going FI now. Maybe they just like being different and unique.

Getting the mouse motor to go fast is a challenge and rewarding for some of us.

Cars come and go for me and perhaps my next one will be my dream Vette.

Oh and sorry, I have no clue how much rwhp you can gain with bolt-ons.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by AdamChoudhry

I'm a 20 year old male driving a car with full coverage. My estimate for the SS was 8200 a year and the V6 is 3800 a year which is with a discount for being a deans list college student. Also, I live in rural NJ where my drive to school, work etc. is flat open roads with no traffic or lights.

Wow I am glad I am no longer 20. I am paying $600 a year for full coverage on our 2012 1LT convertible which is about $80 more a year than our 2010 1LT Coupe. Of course I have a home owners and multi car and safe driver discounts, of course being 58 years old helps.

What is your average speed to get that 35 mpg?

Sorry OP for the thread jack.

[SC2150]

Best we have seen is 32, but it is possible I imagine, Gretchen twin turbo got 28 I think avg back to AR from FL after his build, and smoke1lt got I think 24-26?

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by AdamChoudhry

and I'm averaging 35 mpg.

This is a Gen5 Camaro you're talking about? You must do a lot of coasting. 35 MPG average? Come on now...